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FA Cup is not a big trophy for Poch

"Ok, now Tottenham need a trophy". No, no, no, no. We need a big trophy. A big trophy is Premier League or Champions League."

'It would mean nothing for me to win the League Cup or the FA Cup even though they are important."
Your Poch quotes were in August. Mine a couple weeks ago. Therefore Poch's more recent quotes supercede yours, you know, being more recent.

Keep talking lad, you're doing great.
 
Your definition of competing is rather different to mine - why are you completely unable to accept opinion contrary to yours? I don't agree with Poch's comments and I find them rather cringe - if you have a problem with that, deal with it.
The problem is that you're both playing a game of semantics. To compete can mean to both participate in the competition and also to try and match others. In theory, everyone who plays in the league competes.

I don't agree with Poch's comments either, but not because the domestic cups are a priority. Rather because we have squad depth to give those cups a decent crack while we strive for the bigger things as well. So I don't get the connection between that and how much we are competing with the bigger sides. Your argument that we aren't truly competing because we don't have the funds does have some merit, but then equally there is plenty of merit in the counter argument that we are competing because in spite of our weaker financial position we are now in our third title challenge and if we keep going this way sooner or later we'll win a trophy and probably more than one, so on that alone we are competing against the bigger teams and if we weren't we would've have seen Man U, Man, Chelsea, Woolwich and Liverpool all finish below us at some point over the past two seasons. There is equally merit in the argument that we have away the league cup and didn't take it seriously for the past three seasons, which is the wrong approach, and the bigger teams flippant enough to treat it as below them despite fielding weaker sides.

We all surely agree that the CL and the PL are the bigger competitions and are the priorities in terms of the quality of players we field. We all agree that it would still have been nice to win a trophy. Those who dismissed the league cup as below us have pretty much backtracked, realising that no trophy should really be sniffed at. Equally, those who think we should concentrate more on the domestic cups know that it's a ridiculous notion given how good we have been in the league for two seasons (albeit I have to say that I personally haven't seen anyone actually argue that). So after 15 pages of argument, I'm wondering what exactly is the argument about?
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Didn't you just call me the ''resident tool''. Hypocrisy thy name is Lego Boy!

I'm the one debating with anything resembling facts. You've been presented with Poch's own words and choose not to believe them and call it PR. With absolutely nothing to back that up except your own feelings. Then presented with facts about us competing you talk some utter fraff.

Opinions cannot be false because you simply disagree with them? No, they can't. But they can when presented with facts to the contrary.

You're just incapable of admitting you've been proved wrong and leech onto your wrong opinion like a child who won't let a toy go.

You haven't exposed any lies. You just called me a liar. Two different things.

You've been had. Again.
I've presented number of facts, including quotes from Poch which you've predictably dismissed because they don't align with your narrative. Your prejudice and petty agenda have blinded you in rage to the point of spouting such delusional claims, it's become rather embarassing. Have a word with yourself
 
Dear me, you need help, fella
Your quotes....

Mauricio Pochettino wants Premier League and Champions League titles as he plots new era of Tottenham success

Article in pre-season.

My quotes...

Mauricio Pochettino says the Premier League and Champions League are Tottenham's priority

Two weeks ago. He literally said 2 weeks ago he'd like to win the F.A. Cup. Even if the PL and CL are rightfully the priority.

You can retreat into your familiar platitudes all you like.

Fact is, you've admitted in this debate that we don't compete with Chelsea and the Manchesters and that the Carabao Cup/F.A Cup should be our priority above the League.

Stupid.
 
Your quotes....

Mauricio Pochettino wants Premier League and Champions League titles as he plots new era of Tottenham success

Article in pre-season.

My quotes...

Mauricio Pochettino says the Premier League and Champions League are Tottenham's priority

Two weeks ago. He literally said 2 weeks ago he'd like to win the F.A. Cup. Even if the PL and CL are rightfully the priority.

You can retreat into your familiar platitudes all you like.

Fact is, you've admitted in this debate that we don't compete with Chelsea and the Manchesters and that the Carabao Cup/F.A Cup should be our priority above the League.

Stupid.
The second one is from Septmeber actually

Fact - Poch sad both. Most likely he got reprimanded as a result by our PR department and adjusted the story slightly for the second one. If you think there's nothing wrong with his earlier comments - says more about you really.
 
I've presented number of facts, including quotes from Poch which you've predictably dismissed because they don't align with your narrative. Your prejudice and petty agenda have blinded you in rage to the point of spouting such delusional claims, it's become rather embarassing. Have a word with yourself
Stop trying deflect the fact you've been a prat by saying it's an agenda.

My ''delusional claims'' are that we are competing with Chelsea and the Manchesters and that Poch wants to win the F.A. Cup, whilst prioritising the League and CL. Presenting quotes from two weeks ago from Poch himself.

If I'm delusional, so is Poch? Or maybe, you're talking out of your arse.
 
Because you’re refusing to accept any other opinion on the subject. You’re lurching between misrepresenting the manager, and some vague, woolly definition of the word ‘competing’, as well as refusing to keep your comments pertinent to the thread title.
I've kept it on topic from the onset and had a very civilised debate with Sammy on the matter even though we both disagree by and large - you've come in late to the part to play the man as usual.
 
The second one is from Septmeber actually

Fact - Poch sad both. Most likely he got reprimanded as a result by our PR department and adjusted the story slightly for the second one. If you think there's nothing wrong with his earlier comments - says more about you really.
HAHAHA, with absolutely no proof and absolutely nothing to back it up Poch's words are now PR!

Brilliant, just brilliant. You now are privvy to what Poch really means and the direction our PR department pushes him in. How did you get such an inside track on the inner dealings of the club?

Also, article date 25/10/17 12:26am.

Mauricio Pochettino says the Premier League and Champions League are Tottenham's priority

Keep digging.
 
Stop trying deflect the fact you've been a prat by saying it's an agenda.
100% and your last 20 posts or so prove that yet again. What exactly are you aiming to achieve here? Convenience me you're right over some semantics while disregarding every fact brought to the debate? I consider the skidmark on my toilet this morning a higher from of life than you on this forum - so why bother with this? You would disagree if I sad the ocean is blue so hey ho
 
HAHAHA, with absolutely no proof and absolutely nothing to back it up Poch's words are now PR!

Brilliant, just brilliant. You now are privvy to what Poch really means and the direction our PR department pushes him in. How did you get such an inside track on the inner dealings of the club?

Also, article date 25/10/17 12:26am.

Mauricio Pochettino says the Premier League and Champions League are Tottenham's priority

Keep digging.
Keep imagining Poch never said what he did in August - perhaps in your alternative universe that is the case
 
I consider the skidmark on my toilet this morning a higher from of life than you on this forum -
What did you say about kindergarten insults? It's almost as if you're a massive hypocrite.

Keep imagining Poch never said what he did in August - perhaps in your alternative universe that is the case
Opinions change. What he said 2 weeks ago is a more current gauge of Poch's thoughts than in preseason.
 
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