Could be. I'm skeptical about buy outs generally, as it sounds like something that anyone can claim without having to prove it. I guess we'll see. I wouldn't be averse to either player, though.
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Transfers Summer 2019 transfer thread
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Here is a good piece on what we missed by not signing Maddison. This would've been a very solid contribution that could have let Eriksen get a lot more rest:
Straight swap? Diawara for Trippier
Wolves bought such players and did very well. I would welcome back Modric and Bale, better than what we have in Dier, Wanyama, Dele and ever injured Lamela.
My concern is that we do need another creative player in addition to eriksen rather than replace otherwise we are back to square one with rotation again like this season.
Which is kind of what I just said. But if we sell Eriksen then obviously yes, we would need more than one "creative" player. But that's a different discussion over a much broader topic.
A lot of comments about modric being too old.
Surely if we are looking for a player to rotate in to midfield an older player could be a great choice?
Experienced, doesn’t mind sitting on the bench, doesn’t need minutes on the pitch to “develop”
Surely if we are looking for a player to rotate in to midfield an older player could be a great choice?
Experienced, doesn’t mind sitting on the bench, doesn’t need minutes on the pitch to “develop”
I’d take that.
Some players are better when they aren't playing.
No. The danger with "old" is that at some point on the aging curve a player is no longer physically able to function at that level. And at that point, Spurs would still have to pay for someone who couldn't be a part of the squad, but who might be unsellable given the contract we gave them. For example, look at Alexis Sanchez at MUFC. He has hit his decline, and is completely unsellable because no one on the planet is going to pay what he currently makes, so MUFC will need to eat his contract for the next several years while they won't get any reasonable contribution for that money.
Aging is not an exact science, and no one can predict when that can happen. The risks can often outweigh the rewards without a lot of medical data to give some context. So, mid-30s Luka Modric? At some point, his body is going to say stop. And no one knows when that is. But do we want to pay for that? I don't.
It's all a question of pricing in the risk/reward relationship. The football industry has gotten much, much more sophisticated about that in the past decade. It's not a coincidence that all these emerging talents we're after constantly have massive price tags slapped on them, the game has gotten wise to the age/wages/sell on value curve.
We've seen it in THST minutes and the like, the club in the past have targeted a specific sort of young, talented, but still below the radar player as an undervalued type of asset. But the market has corrected itself.
Maybe classy old guys who big clubs are scared to give long term contracts to is the next market inefficiency, who knows.
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If anything young talent can be a greater risk than an older player with proven talent. Their premium is priced on potential talent they might not live up to.
An older players fitness can be physically assessed based on recent performances and a medical.
Bottom line I think you need a balance and the cost is the key factor.
Maddison playing v well vs City tonight
Tielemans not bad either...
Tielemans not bad either...
If we outbid Leicester for Tielmans from Monaco, is there any way that they would still sell us Maddison? Because both look like they would slot right into our rotation.
Watching City v Leicester first half, perhaps we could sign most of the Leicester team (apart from Evans, Vardy and Maguire). They look really comfortable on the ball and coping well with the City pressure. Vardy has barely touched the ball yet - even without him they look good going forward.
Ricardo (right back), Chilwell and Tielmans stand out for me. £70m for the three (particularly as Tielmans is on loan anyway)?
Ricardo (right back), Chilwell and Tielmans stand out for me. £70m for the three (particularly as Tielmans is on loan anyway)?
To an extent, it is. Ajax just built their team around that idea this year (Dusan Tadic and Huntelaar). But the problem is that when you get it wrong, you have very expensive problems that are very difficult to fix. And that's not a luxury Spurs have given how competitive the PL is. Ajax can do this because if they don't work, they're still good enough to play in the Eredivisie for them. We need CL quality guys, essentially, every match.
So once again, I'd say hell no, and keep focusing on the same players we have targeted in the past, just with perhaps a higher budget cap and maybe more poking at Mauricio to stop saying no to everybody who isn't *exactly* the player he wants.
I'd doubt it. But either one would be great. That said, if Mahrez was 70m, how much would Leicester want for Maddison? I think we just missed the boat.
Definitely missed our chance. I’m hoping we get Ward-Prowse
He didn’t want to come to us.
I'd heard that Mauricio said no. Either way, given our current situation, not great.