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I have watched his last 2 games for Lyon and he has been really vanilla.

He's funny one, I have watched him probably 45+ times, there are loads of games where he looks a bit meh (and he's definitely got some defensive learning to do) or isn't involved as much, but I'm sure that's partly because Lyon under Genesio have no real ethos, big chunks of games just meander without any real clear pattern, I'm pretty sure under Pochettino he'd develop the raw materials into something pretty decent. he's not Lahm or Alaba - more like a Walker with some composure - but compared to what we've been watching (up and at em Danny's great when he's chippy'n someone but his end product has always been disappointing) he seems to have the combination of athleticism, engine and a bit of end product when he gets forward that would suit the way we want to play.

The truth is, and Ive said this to you often, really top class FB's are probably the rarest thing in footballdom. They have to everything to everybody, defenders, midfielders and forwards, fast and with stamina, technically good but also tenacious.

Mendy''s not going to be Marcelo ever, but I think he could tick quite a few boxes. And I honestly don't know too many other young LB's out there, available to us, who are "perfect".
 
He's funny one, I have watched him probably 45+ times, there are loads of games where he looks a bit meh (and he's definitely got some defensive learning to do) or isn't involved as much, but I'm sure that's partly because Lyon under Genesio have no real ethos, big chunks of games just meander without any real clear pattern, I'm pretty sure under Pochettino he'd develop the raw materials into something pretty decent. he's not Lahm or Alaba - more like a Walker with some composure - but compared to what we've been watching (up and at em Danny's great when he's chippy'n someone but his end product has always been disappointing) he seems to have the combination of athleticism, engine and a bit of end product when he gets forward that would suit the way we want to play.

The truth is, and Ive said this to you often, really top class FB's are probably the rarest thing in footballdom. They have to everything to everybody, defenders, midfielders and forwards, fast and with stamina, technically good but also tenacious.

Mendy''s not going to be Marcelo ever, but I think he could tick quite a few boxes. And I honestly don't know too many other young LB's out there, available to us, who are "perfect".
Firpo looks quite decent but I am with you on Mendy. He's got all you want athletically and has some gifts going forward (ie an actual footballer)...I definitely would say as much as your boy Sessegnon going forward if not more because he does bring the ball infield from the left side and has covered the right FB a few times this year too. His delivery is actually quite good in my book and he always has his head up for options instead of just serving a hopeful ball.

His defense 1v1 is good but that's mostly athleticism anyway. I would say that in order to truly evaluate his defense from a team perspective, I agree with you, that they didn't have the best organization so it would be hard.

But I am sure that it wasn't from lack of trying and coaching from Genesio's perspective. I just think the principles that he was trying to convey to those players were too advanced and arcane. But you get that from superior footballing minds.

I sensed in your Guardiola diatribes that your were hedging putting Bruno in there with the high praise you were throwing out. It's ok to be on the leading edge of waves BC. Eventually others will catch up.
 
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Firpo looks quite decent but I am with you on Mendy. He's got all you want athletically and has some gifts going forward (ie an actual footballer)...I definitely would say as much as your boy Sessegnon going forward if not more because he does bring the ball infield from the left side and has covered the right FB a few times this year too. His delivery is actually quite good in my book and he always has his head up for options instead of just serving a hopeful ball.

His defense 1v1 is good but that's mostly athleticism anyway. I would say that in order to truly evaluate his defense from a team perspective, I agree with you, that they didn't have the best organization so it would be hard. But I am sure that it wasn't from lack of trying and coaching from Genesio's perspective. I just think the principles that he was trying to convey to those players were too advanced and arcane. But you get that from superior footballing minds. I sensed in your Guardiola diatribes that your were hedging putting Bruno in there with the high praise you were throwing out. It's ok to be on the leading edge of waves BC. Eventually others will catch up.

I don't see Sessegnon as a LB. I think his future is definitely in the forward positions and that's where/how he's played his best football. I think his composure (being attached to speed) for a 17/18yo is what impressed me the most. Quite rare to have those two things going on at the same time, especially in a 17/18yo.

Not seen enough Spanish football this year to be able to talk about Firpo - couple others have mentioned him on here though.
 
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I don't see Sessegnon as a LB. I think his future is definitely in the forward positions and that's where/how he's played his best football. I think his composure (being attached to speed) for a 17/18yo is what impressed me the most. Quite rare to have those two things going on at the same time, especially in a 17/18yo.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to put this one in the same file cabinet as your Fekir dossier, the one marked "Just Don't See it". Just don't think there is enough threat or ability to beat top level FBs playing up top. I had my doubts as a FB but somehow folks want him to play forward????

But he is only 19 so he may develop. Take Kai Havertz who is also only 19 and is clearly experiencing the similar growing pains in the BL that Sessegnon experienced in the Prem.:pocheyes: Hopefully Havertz can turn it around next season lest there be another promising youth career down the tubes.

I guess it's just like folks that would remind me when I would criticize Dele previously that he was only 19 and would develop with age and add to his game. So since that has worked out swimmingly and he has become a completely different player far beyond what he was 4 seasons ago I can expect the same development with Sessegnon. So that comforts me.:pochunimpressed:
 
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I guess it's just like folks that would remind me when I would criticize Dele previously that he was only 19 and would develop with age and add to his game. So since that has worked out swimmingly and he has become a completely different player far beyond what he was 4 seasons ago I can expect the same development with Sessegnon. So that comforts me.:pochunimpressed:


I don't see Sessegnon as a LB. I think his future is definitely in the forward positions and that's where/how he's played his best football. I think his composure (being attached to speed) for a 17/18yo is what impressed me the most. Quite rare to have those two things going on at the same time, especially in a 17/18yo.

Not seen enough Spanish football this year to be able to talk about Firpo - couple others have mentioned him on here though.


Spot the odd one out Mr fucking Wisenheimer?
 
Trying to watch Jack Clarke highlights, but don't know the level of those he is playing against. Do footballers in Britain or Europe have to do timed sprints so we can really evaluate pace? In American football combines, every player at every position is timed. You know what you are getting in that department.

sprinting like Usain bolt is very different from having blistering pace while having the ball at your feet or moving the ball forward and skinning defenders. Will be a waste of time to make footballers do timed sprints.
 
Ceballos rumours can suck a dick. Not interested.


CAM Fekir (especially if Eriksen fek(ir)s off to Madrid) - can also be used as a forward -same as Lucas and Sonny.

Disagree. If Eriksen leaves then we absolutely can't f around with that position and should get someone PL proven = Tielemans should be bought no matter what the cost is.

Eriksen is the heartbeat of the team - the season will tank if anyone from another league replaces him and flops because they can't 'adapt'

Spurs don't really need a striker : Son, Moura and Dele have all shown that they can play there when needed
 
Trying to watch Jack Clarke highlights, but don't know the level of those he is playing against. Do footballers in Britain or Europe have to do timed sprints so we can really evaluate pace? In American football combines, every player at every position is timed. You know what you are getting in that department.

Like the ones that said Tom Brady was basically shit at everything and you shouldn't go near him? No, we don't do stuff like that.

This is all at Championship level:



Hell of lot of highlights from relatively few games played. Not all players his age could handle the physicality of the Championship football but he doesn't struggle at all with it. Amazing prospect.
 
It'd be interesting to see what happens if we do sell Eriksen, what the replacement would be or if we would change formation.

Lloris
AWB? - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Rose
NDombele - Winks - Dele
Lucas - Kane - Son
Kind of copying the City and Liverpool approach, but it has been successful. Dele is capable of playing centre mid, but i'd still like to see maybe Grealish, Gomes Tielemans in for depth, as well as strengthening other positions like attacking line.. Sessengon, Bowen, Ziyech?


And who will take the set pieces?
Spurs don't really need a striker : Son, Moura and Dele have all shown that they can play there when needed

That Kane kid is pretty good too
 
Disagree. If Eriksen leaves then we absolutely can't f around with that position and should get someone PL proven = Tielemans should be bought no matter what the cost is.

Eriksen is the heartbeat of the team - the season will tank if anyone from another league replaces him and flops because they can't 'adapt'

Spurs don't really need a striker : Son, Moura and Dele have all shown that they can play there when needed

Coutinho was the 'heartbeat' of Liverpool ... still probably a better player than anyone they have now ... but they adapted and now play a different game ... we would do the same the team's style is a combination of tactics and abilities, no point going for fast breakaways with slow strikers, or crossing highballs into the box with midget strikers. Same goes with midfield, if you have a super creative player Demirbay, Savanier, Mertens, Rochina, Neymar, Messi you give them the ball and expect things to happen ... but if you don't then you build from the back and use all your forward players as the play develops ...

It's amazing how defenders have started to dominate passing stats ... a reflection on possession top teams versus the rest ... Eriksen is brilliant, but two slightly less brilliant replacements would probably make for a stronger squad ... best case keep Eriksen and add an Eriksen clone ... we can but dream

1Jorginho Chelsea, 27, DMC2077
2Aymeric Laporte Manchester City, 24, D(CL)1958
3Antonio Rüdiger Chelsea, 25, D(CR)1873
4Virgil van Dijk Liverpool, 27, D(C)1798
5David Luiz Chelsea, 31, D(C),DMC1749
6Granit Xhaka Woolwich, 26, M(C)1744
7Aissa Mandi Real Betis, 27, D(CLR)1618
8César Azpilicueta Chelsea, 29, D(CLR),M(R)1613
9Fernandinho Manchester City, 33, D(R),DMC1599
10Ivan Rakitic Barcelona, 30, M(C)1560
11Toby Alderweireld Tottenham, 29, D(CR)1516
 
Disagree. If Eriksen leaves then we absolutely can't f around with that position and should get someone PL proven = Tielemans should be bought no matter what the cost is.

Eriksen is the heartbeat of the team - the season will tank if anyone from another league replaces him and flops because they can't 'adapt'

Spurs don't really need a striker : Son, Moura and Dele have all shown that they can play there when needed
I thought the idea Was to keep the likes of eriksen and add player's to the squad for greater depth and competition for places, what is the point of replacing like for like only to run into the same issues next season of fatigue and injuries don't see the point.
 
This is trotted out quite frequently as a convenient and pithy rebuttal of a person's argument....
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...Should players be looked at only for 90? Obviously not. But I also believe that a fairly confident assessment can be made in about 10 touches but I won't make that argument here as I fear for the local population around bus-conductor bus-conductor 's place.

So true, some players you can tell within 5 minutes
 
I see As are linking us with Madrid's Dani Ceballos.

Fuck that, nasty, bigoted cunt who thinks its funny to tweet about 14-year old girls' breasts and fantasise about them giving him a blow job.

I would say that this potentially will make Poch think twice about signing him but he did sign Aurier despite all the controversy surrounding him at PSG at the time
 
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