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Transfers Summer 2019 transfer thread

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FightingIllini said:
Put him in front of the back four and stick a dynamic line-splitting athlete like Sissoko or Ndombele alongside/ahead of him and you've got a platform on which the rest of the squad can dominate in the way they did when Wanyama and Dembele were forming a similar axis a couple of years ago.
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kingdawson said:
Winks definitely can play the DM role. I would play him as a Dm moving forward and not a box to box as he simply won't be able to contribute in terms of goals.
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Winks in the DM position is a square peg in a round hole. He would need a more defensive, physical and positionally astute player next to him. The evidence has been there for you to see the last 2 seasons. Winks has his qualities, and I like him as a player, but nothing in his game suggests that he should be deployed at DM and considering his injury history it is mad to suggest so. If Dembele broke down and Wanyama broke down why would one think putting Winks there is a reasonable decision to take?
kingdawson said:
He's more than good enough to play as a deep lying playmaker. His positional sense is excellent and hes tactically very smart. Obviously not gonna be a Makelele type putting tackles everywhere DM but a dm that sticks to his position and protects the back 4.
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DLP and DM are two different positions. A DLP, Pirlo being the archetype, requires a more defensive partner to do the donkey work.

And though Winks has his qualities 'positional sense' is not one of them. He plays MF like Dawson played CB, not so much reading the game as reacting. He needs to get better here. It doesn't help that he has not been able to play off a set group of players around him nor a consistent run to build understanding but it still doesn't look like he is reading things.
Airfixx said:
Can N'dombele be that guy?
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No, not his game.
 
Airfixx said:
I think if Poch persists with this horrible diamond that's exactly what we need.... (We've lacked said protection this season).

Can N'dombele be that guy?

I haven't seen enough of him to say.....
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Nope. He isn't a DM.

Though incredibly he still keeps getting comparisons with Kante and Diawara, who are two DMs.
 
Airfixx said:
Didn't think so....

So, if one had to pick this window; buy:

DM + N'Dombele

DM + Lo Celso

or

N'Dombele + Lo Celso

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About right.

And if those were the choices, I'd go with DM + N'Dombele every time.

N'Dombele + Lo Celso would still require us to sign a DM - though I think we could get away with 4231 and N'Dombele/Winks midfield 2 in certain games.
 
pipes said:
An overheard argument:

Her - what the fuck are you on Tinder for?!?!
Him - well, I know we’ve been married for 7 years but I’m just seeing what’s out there.
Her - what the fuck?!?!
Him - it’s ok, if there’s nobody hotter or sluttier than you, I’ll not shag them and just stay with you instead.
Her - oh, that’s ok then. Thanks for clarifying.

Nope.
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1. Isn't that pretty much how all marriages work anyway?

2. It's job, not a marriage?

3. If the club want a player gone they make sure Tinder the media know.

As long as the player isn't slagging off the club or fucking up the team by agitating for a move, I've got no problem at all with them saying, I fancy a change etc
 
Sean said:
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If people still want this guy I will just say that you saw what I have always seen in him last night. Other than topping it off with a blooter from 25 (after 3 or 4 other attempts into row Z[ed]) that is his game. So if he is not deployed at the 10 then he is worthless. And in the PL, even at the 10, there are huge question marks. And why after losing a 10 would we want to spend 50+M to get in another 10 weaker in every other aspect to the 10 you lost? His goals in LigaNOS will not translate to the PL.
 
Totti said:
About right.

And if those were the choices, I'd go with DM + N'Dombele every time.

N'Dombele + Lo Celso would still require us to sign a DM - though I think we could get away with 4231 and N'Dombele/Winks midfield 2 in certain games.
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That's the picture I'm building.... Same as Sissoko/Winks was sufficient for the bulk of this season.... It's only certain oppo that'll exploit that minor weakness.

TBH, Lo Celso feels a little but like a depth signing in as much as we'd not be likely to play Winks/Eriksen in a 2 and Poch still seems reluctant to go full-on 433 (hense the poxy diamond).
 
bus-conductor said:
1. Isn't that pretty much how all marriages work anyway?

2. It's job, not a marriage?

3. If the club want a player gone they make sure Tinder the media know.

As long as the player isn't slagging off the club or fucking up the team by agitating for a move, I've got no problem at all with them saying, I fancy a change etc
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If Mrs Blakey exists, you should ask her how she feels about that.
 
todd1882 said:
If people still want this guy I will just say that you saw what I have always seen in him last night. Other than topping it off with a blooter from 25 (after 3 or 4 other attempts into row Z[ed]) that is his game. So if he is not deployed at the 10 then he is worthless. And in the PL, even at the 10, there are huge question marks. And why after losing a 10 would we want to spend 50+M to get in another 10 weaker in every other aspect to the 10 you lost? His goals in LigaNOS will not translate to the PL.
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Didn't see much in him last night, but despite the talent on show Portugal didn't seem to get much out of any of them (The greasy one's heroics aside).... Seemed a bit of a mess to me.
 
Airfixx said:
Didn't think so....

So, if one had to pick this window; buy:

DM + N'Dombele

DM + Lo Celso

or

N'Dombele + Lo Celso

???
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Would love to answer you but I have no idea what or how we are going to play next season. If you narrowed that down then I could give an answer. 4231, 433, this diamond shit to accommodate players not fit for the positions they will put in or a proper, ruthless coach hellbent on meritocracy? Do I have to consider the same FBs or will we get some new drive from those positions? If Poch doesn't rate Moura will we bring in a more appropriate player for the right sided attacker?

Not being difficult here I just would like to know more before speculating.
 
todd1882 said:
Would love to answer you but I have no idea what or how we are going to play next season. If you narrowed that down then I could give an answer. 4231, 433, this diamond shit to accommodate players not fit for the positions they will put in or a proper, ruthless coach hellbent on meritocracy? Do I have to consider the same FBs or will we get some new drive from those positions? If Poch doesn't rate Moura will we bring in a more appropriate player for the right sided attacker?

Not being difficult here I just would like to know more before speculating.
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None of us do....

Go on... Nut up..... It's not exactly a life or death call, ya big tart.... :eriksenlol:
 
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Swoos said:
Son - Kane
Lo Celso
Dele - Bruno
N’Dombele

That’s a good looking midfield
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Only to someone that has not seen any of those players play and was merely throwing out names that he thinks are good because he's heard of them in media links. That MF is utter shite and would get ripped about by the most mid of midtable teams. You could throw those players and their clones next to them in an 8 man MF and you would have spent upwards of 200M (considering the clones are free) and still wouldn't have your bases covered.
 
bus-conductor said:
1. Isn't that pretty much how all marriages work anyway?

2. It's job, not a marriage?

3. If the club want a player gone they make sure Tinder the media know.

As long as the player isn't slagging off the club or fucking up the team by agitating for a move, I've got no problem at all with them saying, I fancy a change etc
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I honestly have no bad wishes against him for saying he fancies a change. Cool with that. It was the additional, “but if nothing happens I’ll just stay at Tottenham” I’ve got issue with.

Not keen on us being his consolation prize. Or anyone’s. We almost certainly are in most cases, I just don’t want to hear it.
 
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