We've previously seen quotes from Ndombele & GLC about Poch coaxing them to sign.
....Not at all, but we know from De Jong we bid and that Poch had tried to coax him too.
Employee does Employers bidding...news @ 10
why would we persue Grealish if the gaffa wasn't behind it.
Perhaps we should ask Jack Clarke
Winks / Sissoko + Eriksen or Dele - Who's the broken one(s)?
The point was/is all that we
know is that we played the diamond with these folks. Broken down = shit, it's a POS MF relative to what we had...but that wasn't the point... The diamond was played with these players and not Dembele and Wanyama...two players that most everyone, IMO, on the board would prefer. This is what we
know. That is fact not hearsay.
He never was fit and bearly was throughout the enitire diamond 'era', so what's you're point here?
Again, his fitness was not my point when I asked
If Wanyama were healthy in your estimation would he be playing Winks at the base or would Vic be there?
but what was my point is that had Wanyama been fit IN YOUR ESTIMATION would Poch have played Winks at the base. It's a simple question. In MY estimation Poch would have been playing Wanyama. And I imagine if we polled this whole forum 95%-plus would agree.
Early 18/19 season he made the comment about 2 strikers whilst Dier & Dembele were both in the mix
We played with two strikers this weekend. We have/had played 352/3412 often. That's two strikers, no diamond. Therefore we can conclude that Poch's words of support for 2 strikers does not necessarily mean a diamond formation and considering the formation, IIRC, was never used prior to the loss of Dembele and Wanyama it would be more than reasonable to conclude that this was emergency tactics.
Given your hasty rejection of my prior "stanza"; I ressurect my point to you; why not seek out a DM rather than compromise your whole previous ethos trying to fudge a system that you're not equipped for?
And the hasty rejection was because we don't
know any of what you said we knew. There is no incontrovertible proof nor any firsthand account. Everything is hearsay, paper conjecture, and 2+2=5 stuff. To believe that stuff is to believe Hercules and ITK. And we don't
know that he did not seek out a DM. But since there was never any foreign spot open on the roster why would you lay that turd at Poch's doorstep? Who's more likely to have been the holdup, the coach whose job depends on the talent he is given or the chairman who's a notorious tightwad?
It's all based on hearsay. And if we're gonna chop a man down, assassinate his character and shine a dim light on his time with us shouldn't we at least give him the benefit of dealing in (verifiable) facts? I don't like this piling on and narrative building I see going on eg Poch's training methods have worn the delicate little flowers down, or Poch was too per
snickety or Poch was this or that. These players suck now because they suck. Some sucked during his time. But most suck now. They sucked with the diamond and now they suck without the diamond. And many individually sucked before but were made to look good in Poch's setup. I'm not saying you are saying any of these things but I did feel you built an argument on false or unverifiable assumptions which feeds into the narrative.
Why did he go full diamond we will never know the true reason but I'm betting, considering we didn't do it before DemYama (MousVic? WanBele? you choose) and did almost immediately after they were no more, that the decision was predicated on maximizing the qualities of the current personnel and not a deep held tactical belief going forward. He may have felt it was the best way to get the most out of them. And decisions made in the fog of war are never optimal.