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Transfers January 2020 transfer thread

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Park Lane Mark Twain said:
Who has ever given the impression that Tottenham Hotspur would just collapse without Levy? I certainly haven't and apologies if others have flat out said such a thing but I can't recall reading it often on here or hearing about it down the pub etc.
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Let me make a more distinct version of what I'm saying:

The non-ENIC alternative history of Spurs 2001-present is probably not all that different, and might very well be more successful.

The person who shook up the trajectory of the club during that period was Mauricio Pochettino. I expect that will become increasingly clear in the coming years.
 
FightingIllini said:
Let me make a more distinct version of what I'm saying:

The non-ENIC alternative history of Spurs 2001-present is probably not all that different, and might very well be more successful.

The person who shook up the trajectory of the club during that period was Mauricio Pochettino. I expect that will become increasingly clear in the coming years.
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A little different to saying that people have the idea that Spurs would just collapse without Levy and I don't argue with your view at all, impossible to without a comparative. I would say that since ENIC took over, barring all the teams that got taken over by Monopoly money and silly boy spending that we have been one of the more consistent though. For every Daniel Levy there's half a dozen Mike Ashley's or biscuit men from Iceland etc.
 
I haven't seen or heard of this Gedson person. Is he good enough to make a difference or is it just Levy not wanting to pay top whack? Why can't we get in a bid for Dembele if his contract is coming up?
 
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Park Lane Mark Twain said:
He's the money man, that's his job isn't it surely? To grind out the best deal for the club? Since ENIC have taken over there's been well over 100 players come through the door, maybe around 115 or so when all tallied up so I can only guess the players out are similar. 200-250 transfers combined. Haggle £1m-£2m off an incoming, beef up a sale by £1m-£2m and you go from a team breaking even to a team with anything from £200m-£500m in the coffers which we do. Yes it can be tedious but you know what's worse than a tedious chairman? A reckless one and he's taken us to greater levels off the pitch due to his efficiency and how he's handled the club.

Yes he's had his wobbles, dropped a few changers but off the pitch, which really is his main duty as a non-coach based member of the club is run in a way that gives us muscle whenever we need to invest on the pitch. His job is to focus purely on the best interests of Tottenham Hotspur and when looking at the decisions he's made with the stadium, our commercial partnerships, the financial results, the manager shift this year and the fact that he's got £200m's worth of talent through the door to bolster the squad (Perm and/ or loan, ultimately they are still here right now) I don't see the hate for him. If offered Levy or any other chairman that isn't an oligarch or sultan and I'd still take Levy all day long. Each to their own and all of that but the complexities of running a football are clearly harder than what we normal folk probably believe it to be. No issues with him haggling with me ultimately it's his job to.
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Not at the cost of the team becoming mediocre. Because that's what he's achieved.
 
FightingIllini said:
It's beside my point, but I have to say, there's something really irritating about the idea that Spurs would just collapse without Levy, that he's the difference between us and being Aston Villa or something.

ENIC bought a club (in a growing, wealthy, thriving city, a critical factor to remember vis a vis Villa or Everton or whoever) with a huge and passionate support who eagerly snap up enormously expensive tickets rain or shine and who make Spurs a go-to TV presence for broadcasters as well.

THAT'S Tottenham Hotspur. Levy is just a steward, capable and accomplished though he may be.
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You are right - the club will endure long after Levy, you and me - but you are wrong about the job Levy does, squeezing that extra couple of million on every deal, beating the council over the head on infrastructure spend, playing silly buggers with the Olympic stadium to ensure planning permission in N17 - all off that was to make sure he could build our new home without bankrupting us, that was Levy's job. Sure he also had to make sure we had a manager who could run the playing side, a transfer team who could run the buying and selling, and a support team to do all the things a support team does, but bottom line a chairmen's job is to ensure a business has the finances and the assets to compete in it's chosen field.

If you screw up the finances - Toys R Us - House of Fraser - Patisserie Valerie - it doesn't matter how good your employees are, they will do you no good when the money runs out ...

Squeezing that extra 2/3/5m out of 200 transfer deals - that's exactly why under DL we are Spurs and West Ham are a bunch of pikeys with a running track ... we weren't that far apart 25 years ago, people often forget that.
 
Spaniel said:
Not at the cost of the team becoming mediocre. Because that's what he's achieved.
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and you've achieved the dumb troll of the month award ... if we're mediocre now then under your criteria we've been feckin' shit for 40 years ... or maybe you're just a troll ... yup I'm going with that second one.

Spaniel - annoying yappy dog, known for poor eyesight and a tendency to suffer from progressive retinal atrophy - at least you selected an apt name
 
John Thomas said:
As we prepare to go into another important premier league game without a recognised striker, it sounds more like another window where the spreadsheet trumps the football team..
Looking for that risk free bargain here and there to paper over the cracks.
Tbf, it's probably why we're where we are today if you think about it.
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Its funny. I posted this yesterday morning and the usual suspects like Sammy boy and the Bangkok fellow and others were quick to jump all over it with their usual apologetic bullshit.

If it was any other top club in our position, with a squad in dissaray, won only 8 of 22 league games, still no serious competition for a lone striker who's spent 33% of the last 3 years injured.......their fans would be demanding action and seriously questioning the boards commitment.

Our fans just keep making excuses.
When we recently became the first club not to sign a single player for a year and a half they made excuses.
In fact, the two i mention above even endorsed that blatant act of treachery that preceded one of the most alarming collapses in form in PL history .

How weird. What a strange collective mindset we have. Little Tottenham mentality.

With fans like this, we deserve to be where we are now.
 
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BangkokSpud said:
and you've achieved the dumb troll of the month award ... if we're mediocre now then under your criteria we've been feckin' shit for 40 years ... or maybe you're just a troll ... yup I'm going with that second one.

Spaniel - annoying yappy dog, known for poor eyesight and a tendency to suffer from progressive retinal atrophy - at least you selected an apt name
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrr................
 
FightingIllini said:
Huh?

What I am saying is just take the money and move on from Eriksen.

5 million euro is not worth the risk of him still being here in April. It's time for this to end.
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Yeah fuck €5m, I don't even get out of bed for €5,000,000, paltry FIVE MILLION EUROS...

I remember when I won €5m on the euromillions, but I didn't bother claiming it, just thought fuck it I'll move on instead, much better off for it...
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Fucking chump change isn't it...
 
FightingIllini said:
Let me make a more distinct version of what I'm saying:

The non-ENIC alternative history of Spurs 2001-present is probably not all that different, and might very well be more successful.

The person who shook up the trajectory of the club during that period was Mauricio Pochettino. I expect that will become increasingly clear in the coming years.
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You're talking absolute bollocks, your fantasy alternate reality is based on absolutely nothing. We were shite when Enic took over, there's just as much chance we'd have been relegated to League 2 by now as there is of us having done better without their takeover.

Instead of making up bullshit, why not appreciate that they took over a club that struggled to crack the top 12, and propelled us to being one that consistently challenged the top 4, BEFORE Poch

But no, give all the credit to him for moving us from 4/5th to 3/4th??? Are you fucking kidding?

I'm always baffled by the resentment some hold towards Enic, I can only assume that those people didn't actually follow Sours before they came in.
 
FightingIllini said:
It's beside my point, but I have to say, there's something really irritating about the idea that Spurs would just collapse without Levy, that he's the difference between us and being Aston Villa or something.

ENIC bought a club (in a growing, wealthy, thriving city, a critical factor to remember vis a vis Villa or Everton or whoever) with a huge and passionate support who eagerly snap up enormously expensive tickets rain or shine and who make Spurs a go-to TV presence for broadcasters as well.

THAT'S Tottenham Hotspur. Levy is just a steward, capable and accomplished though he may be.
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Also, it's about perspetive;

He took over after Alan Sugar. Alan Sugar !
 
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