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We pressed under Poch until he got fucked over with severe underinvestment.It doesn’t matter why we abandoned it the fact is people keep pretending that we pressed under Poch. We didn’t for about three years so stop acting like Jose abandoned it.
You also give reasons as to why we abandoned it.
Lack of players and investment.
Good for Poch not a good reason why Jose doesn’t press?
How so? He has even less players right now and the ones left are 10% of what they were in 2017.
If Dele is near a CB and doesn’t try to get the ball off him, then wants to blame tactics that’s his fault. Lap it up like a good little lap dog mate, ditto Ndombele.
If it’s instructions, how come Moura presses non stop? How come Lamela gets stuck in?
How come Gedson and Bergwijn chase down?
Even Son when fit.....you want a team full of lazy prima donnas who think they are better than what they are, then good for you.
Jose already has us thinking we have a squad of complete bumsDoesn’t that apply equally to Jose?
If a press is to be effective, it has to be from the front. Dele just can’t do it - those hamstring injuries have slowed him up. Harry (whisper it quietly) doesn’t really do it anymore. Sonny can.
I dunno. I’m all for judging Jose when it’s time, but the squad is such a shambles, I just can’t draw any conclusions.
Nope... You seem to be glossing over
just how many people have been vocal about either scenario.
There are also people pissed with both parties but that's just inconvenient for the theory you're supporting isn't it.
How about the fact that both managers have shown frustration with TN....?
Nah polarising it to be a simple case of JM vs TN (or Poch vs Levy.... or AVB vs Harry) is just too easy for the binary minded.
The rest is waffle and not worth responding to?We pressed under Poch until he got fucked over with severe underinvestment.
We stopped the super high press. But we still had a press of some sort (even when we weren't playing well and people moaned about our lack of pressing earlier this season vs shit teams we still dominated possession) and didn't camp outside our own box against every team.
Jose has gone super pussy.
I am not expecting Jose to give us a Liverpool like press but he has enough talent to do more. It's embarassing.
Rest is waffle not worth responding to. We're parking the bus and it's clear to the world ffs sort yourself out.
6O shots and 4 just goals tells me we are missing Kane and Son.I'm not claiming that Dele or Ndombele are playing well. I'd rather say that all our players, maybe except Lo Celso, are playing terrible.
60 shots doesn't tell me anything. It could be howlers from 30 meters. I don't remember many clear cut chances in those games.
I'm not saying Kane and Son wouldn't add quality
They are more aggressive in tackling than Dele yes. They're all stronger, shoulder barge with more gusto, stick a leg in with more conviction etc. Happy?The rest is waffle and not worth responding to?
So that means you can’t explain why Gedson, Lamela, Moura , Bergwijn and Son all try and pressure players while Dele doesn’t.
You can laud Poch for all the good tactics 4 years ago, but you are severely stupid to overlook the decline, form and eventual mess of the squad he left us with.
Lmao so our problem is chance conversion. So carry on playing like negative pussies against relegation fodder but just be more clinical. Right.6O shots and 4 just goals tells me we are missing Kane and Son.
It also tells me we are creating chances.
We don’t shoot from distance that’s half our problem sometimes .
If you agree we are kissing Kane and Son then why are you praising Dele for “saying it how it is” when he claims injuries are no excuses.
We’d have more goals if Kane was in those positions he has found himself in a messed up.
Then if Levy fucked Poch by not investing, and that’s why he stopped pressing, why is Jose a pussy, for not pressing with even less players available to him?They are more aggressive in tackling than Dele yes. They're all stronger, shoulder barge with more gusto, stick a leg in with more conviction etc. Happy?
But as a team our pressing is pathetic because of our tactics from our bitch manager.
& Yes mate Levy did fuck us by not backing our manager.
If we had scored just 8 of those 60 shots and not 4, we wouldn’t be here having this discussion dumbo.Lmao so our problem is chance conversion. So carry on playing like negative pussies against relegation fodder but just be more clinical. Right.
6O shots and 4 just goals tells me we are missing Kane and Son.
It also tells me we are creating chances.
We don’t shoot from distance that’s half our problem sometimes .
If you agree we are missing Kane and Son then why are you praising Dele for “saying it how it is” when he claims injuries are no excuses.
We’d have more goals if Kane was in those positions he has found himself in and messed up.
But Dele isn’t putting up a fight on the pitch, only in an interview and you seem to to have taken it as something it isn’t.I'm happy that Dele will put up a fight despite us missing a couple of players, opposed to some world class manager who had already given up before the Leipzig game had kicked off.
I'm also pleased to hear from an expert as yourself, that when Kane and Son are fully fit we won't miss the goal. That'll send us right back into the top 4 again?
Yeah, certainly the likes of sammyspurs doesn't support Jose.
Lol stop trying to make the bs Poch unhappy with Tanguy nonsense gain traction by casually phrasing it like that Sammy jr.
But as a team our pressing is pathetic because of our tactics from our bitch manager.
& Yes mate Levy did fuck us by not backing our manager.
But Dele isn’t putting up a fight on the pitch, only in an interview and you seem to to have taken it as something it isn’t.
His comments are nothing to do with pressing for one thing, and if you and Dele or anyone else thinks injuries aren’t affecting us, then I just laugh really
So carry on playing like negative pussies against relegation fodder but just be more clinical. Right.
He flicks it because he cannot hold onto it. Doesn't have the technical ability.What boils my piss is his seeming inability to hold onto the ball and give our midfield a break - he just flicks possession away.
He flicks it because he cannot hold onto it. Doesn't have the technical ability.
I’m talking about 1-2 people who keep spamming the same crap over and over and over, yes.So essentially you're talking about 1 or 2 people despite 10s or even a hundred-odd pages of post?
Nice one.