My argument is pretty strong dude. 1 league cup in over 20 years tells me exactly what I need to know. You are content with failing, so all good for you. Some of us want success.
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My argument is pretty strong dude. 1 league cup in over 20 years tells me exactly what I need to know. You are content with failing, so all good for you. Some of us want success.
No, it was shit.... Evidently, you have no idea what envy means.
To say what you just did about me, clearly contradicts your chosen notion of envy and jealously... This only furthers my point.
Your rhetoric is a mess. You're boring.
Yes, because if we then enjoyed success I and many others in our fan base would be hypocrites.
For too long we’ve sat here saying how evil City and Chelsea are. We’d be no different
I don’t agree with
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general stance on this, getting all bent out of shape because we are run as a a sustainable business, etc...But I don’t understand this kind of faux moral stance either. We buy our success (whatever success is to us) too, it’s not like we are some altruistic fan owned cooperative that organically grows all its players and gives away all its merchandise and donates its tv revenues to charity.
We buy most of our players from poorer clubs than us, just like Chelsea do, all of our players are multi millionaires, our owner is a tax exile billionaire who made a fuck ton of money by shorting the pound and causing a shitstorm in the U.K. economy.
We’re the most profitable club in Europe right now, but we are getting outplayed by clubs with much smaller profits and budgets. I don't have any problem at all with our business model, but it's not like we are some English St Pauli, some Basque nationalists, or an amateur, non league, gentleman's club punching 10 divisions above their weight.
Exactly.
I loved our run to the Champions League final, it was so enjoyable, but what is in the trophy cabinet for that? Wheres our trophy for finishing 2nd, 3rd and 4th?
People need to wake up and realise we haven't had any success, we've just got a little bit better than we were.
It's been success for us whilst battling to get into the new stadium. The push to get into the top 4 constantly began in 2004 with the Arnesen/Santini/Jol appointments and it took us until we got Poch and built a squad good enough to do that. That's how hard it is.
Success now (if we hadn't had the pandemic) after a couple of seasons with the income of the new stadium being in effect is constantly challenging for the title. That's what we should of been aiming for over the next 1/2 years. Fuck knows where we are now, I guess that's why we appointed Mourinho. A proven winner of titles to get us over the line.
The virus has fucked us properly now. No idea where we are. Feels like we are miles away, but who knows, that's football.
So lets not win anything for the foreseeable future, lose players to clubs who are actually winning trophies and continue to flirt with 4th spot for the long run because we are doing it the right way?
Fuck off.
PS.. I'm not telling you to fuck off. More the situation. I'm sure you're a nice person.
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Go support City's artificial success then. I've never seen my club win any trophies, and I can safely say it has given me just as much joy as City's FA Cups or Premier Leagues, maybe even more. Doing what we were doing naturally has 20x more value than what City is doing.
You are conflating revenue with profits. The last three accounting years 17/18/19 Spurs have filed profits totalling 217m. In summer 2019, Jan 202 we spent circa 200m on players I think, I believe the next set of accounts will reflect that we've spent most of those profits.
It will take more than 1bn to buy Spurs.
And your a Cunt but let’s not beat around the bush. You celebrate failure. You jump on anyone that wants a bit of success with this club. You criticise anyone that has a right to feel fed up of the club achieving nothing. If anyone is boring it’s you and you’re mundane “ I’m so content “ bullshit
Very good post. In many ways it could be argued that Joe Lewis’ wealth is just as morally wrong as the likes of Abramovich and Mansour.I don’t agree with
But I don’t understand this kind of faux moral stance either. We buy our success (whatever success is to us) too, it’s not like we are some altruistic fan owned cooperative that organically grows all its players and gives away all its merchandise and donates its tv revenues to charity.
We buy most of our players from poorer clubs than us, just like Chelsea do, all of our players are multi millionaires, our owner is a tax exile billionaire who made a fuck ton of money by shorting the pound and causing a shitstorm in the U.K. economy.
We’re the most profitable club in Europe right now, but we are getting outplayed by clubs with much smaller profits and budgets. I don't have any problem at all with our business model, but it's not like we are some English St Pauli, some Basque nationalists, or an amateur, non league, gentleman's club punching 10 divisions above their weight.
So would the posters claiming they would be upset, bless em, if we were to get taken over by an owner such as Abramovich or Mansour and win trophies feel the same way if Lewis was to all of a sudden start pumping money into us in the morning?
Nah, more bullshit..... So much projection and selective/flawed interpretation.
Shame on me for enjoying my time supporting my football team... I should get a hobby that makes me miserable instead.... Like you.
Yours enviously.... 'Fixx.
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Football isn’t fair. Uneven playing field.
Just wish we were like United and had oodles of money by our accord.
Just far too conflicted getting our own Roman.
No you really can't argue that a currency traders wealth is as morally dubious as that earned from a head chopping sovereignty. Don't need Immanuel Kant or even Emmanuel Adebayor for that one...
It's clear that we are all going around in circles arguing and counter arguing with each other over their POV.
Depending on your stance, there are people like yourself who are just happy to be competing in the league altogether, whilst there are others myself included who want more than that.
Who is right who is wrong fuck knows, but as a club we shouldn't be too preachy over success and how to get it, back when our greatest manager bill nick took the reigns he spent the clubs money in order to assemble one of the greatest teams this country has ever seen.
The result was winning the double, retaining the FA cup the following year, along with signing greaves for a record fee, this in turn helped the club to be the first to win silverware in Europe happy days.
Whilst this happened before I was born, I am conscious of the fact football has changed but we were once a bank of England club, I don't begrudge any of those clubs winning they way they want to it's up to other clubs to decide whether to compete or not if they choose to.
Speaking for myself a day or two ago; I'll repeat....
The more the game becomes a battle of obscene wealth, the more it erodes my enjoyment of the game. Thankfully for the time being, because of the way we run our club I don't have to concern myself with that in terms of the team that I actively support. However, there's a tipping point where eventually there's only so many rich arab states to go round; at which point my interest in the game at the top level will simply die altogether.
If that makes me a "celebrator of failure" (copyright some miserable dick-head) then I'm fine with that.
If we were taken over by an Abramovic type owner I would still cheer any success that came our way, albeit with less passion or enthusiasm and I’d do so because the love you have for your club if you value them deep enough won’t fade due to its circumstances. However for me the well being of Spurs means more than what it’s trophy cabinet looks like. I simply don’t see light at the end of the tunnel for clubs that eventually get themselves £800m in debt like Chelsea have on players signed alone. Their owner either writes it off or wants it back eventually and only the former will keep them afloat in the upper echelons of the game.
The club is the club, I would still support them but I prefer the route we take now, all things considered rather than the adopted route of those such as Chelsea or Man City. They may not face any potential trouble now but that easily and quickly changes if and when their owners decide that they want to get off the premier league merry go round. I’d like more money spent by the owners but not the vulgar proportions of transfers in debt we see amongst our adversaries.
I just find it astonishing that Spurs supporters actually enjoy us not really achieving anything than City and Chelsea winning titles etc. You have supporters saying I’d rather have what we have than city and Chelsea. How can anyone in their right mind as a Sports fan, let alone a huge Spurs fan prefer to see the club not successful ?
Wow, we bought through a few youngsters and got to a couple of finals. Jesus, the whole to dare is to do motto this club adopts is completely rendered pointless when you got Spurs supporters celebrating failure. It’s a reason why we get laughed at by rivals so much. The term “Spursy” is there for a reason.
I watched the Last Dance on Netflix and what an inspirational documentary. A winning machine Chicago Bulls spearheaded by a true winner Michael Jordan. That’s what Spurs need to achieve, not get to a few bloody finals and lose them.
Wow, we bought through a few youngsters and got to a couple of finals. Jesus, the whole to dare is to do motto this club adopts is completely rendered pointless when you got Spurs supporters celebrating failure. It’s a reason why we get laughed at by rivals so much. The term “Spursy” is there for a reason.
I watched the Last Dance on Netflix and what an inspirational documentary. A winning machine Chicago Bulls spearheaded by a true winner Michael Jordan. That’s what Spurs need to achieve, not get to a few bloody finals and lose them.
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