Neither manager would win the league or CL with this squad, but in the EL and FA Cup I would prefer Mourinho.
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I think the most likely thing is that neither win a trophy with this group of players.
I think Pep is more likely because if he came here he would have to have a stone cold lock of a deal with Levy to spend or he wouldn't come or just leave. He is not like Jose where he has to take what he can get at this point so would be willing to make concessions to get a job.
I also think that Pep's style is much more likely to produce long term results making us much more competitive in a multitude of competitions increasing our chances of winning a trophy.
That’s easy Mourinho, Pep would need players we can’t afford and even then it’s questionable what trophies we can win with any manager given our resources (I am referring to Prem and CL, we can win a FA or LC)
As others have said - assuming no change in our ownership I'd much much rather have Mourinho at the helm than Guardiola. Pep gets teams playing nicely but has had an embarassment of riches at his disposal everywhere he's been.
José can get an underdog winning, Pep has never been the underdog.
It'll be very interesting to see what Mourinho is actually able to achieve at Spurs by the end of his tenure. We're one of his hardest projects.
José can get an underdog winning, Pep has never been the underdog.
It'll be very interesting to see what Mourinho is actually able to achieve at Spurs by the end of his tenure. We're one of his hardest projects.
We don't have a Pep-type squad at all. Nor did we during the peak of the Poch era.
We've got a Mou team going forward. At the back it's a work in progress.
We've got a Mou team going forward. At the back it's a work in progress.
CV?? Jose of course, the CL wins with Porto and Inter make the difference. Style of football plus success alongside then it's Pep.
Pep is considered among the most influential, brightest footballing minds this century.
Mourinho has had a very successful career, that's all I can say about him. No legacy whatsover.
Mourinho has had a very successful career, that's all I can say about him. No legacy whatsover.
Literally, could never stand the guy: ‘brightest footballing minds’ - with his billion pound team never reaching CL semi-final? Having been absolute ‘also-rans’ against ‘no-net-spend’ Liverpool this year? It’s beginning to look a bit like he doesn’t have the tactical skill to win the most important games.
He’s not as abrasive as Jose, which is why he has lasted longer at clubs, but let’s not forget that BM have improved since he left; and that at City he has innumerable wealth with which to buy the very best players and still can’t get as far in the CL as we have with our apparently ‘champo’ level players. In fact, Redknapp got that far with one WC player and Peter Crouch!
PSG or retirement next for him as I doubt he’d want to take on a ‘lesser team’.
We should probably wait and see how Jose does here before we judge, but Jose has a wider range of achievements.
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Correct.
A nonsense comparison because it always depends on what you prefer
Ronaldo or Messi?
Woods or Nicklaus?
O'Sullivan or Hendry?
Sugar Ray Leonard or Hagler?
These lists and comparisons are endless.
What cannot be argued is the respective brilliance they all bring in their own right.
Pep's teams play attacking football that is frequently a joy to watch.
But after last night, the pattern is clear. The "heir to Cruyff", the "footballing philosopher", is a bottle job in the biggest matches.
If Pep is not prepared to stick to his philosophy when he has one of the most expensively & corruptly assembled squads in world football, plays De Bruyne as a right-winger, and picks all three of Gundogan, Rodri and Fernandinho leaving the creative sparks of Mahrez, the Silvas and Foden on the bench, then he's a coward.
Yes, a good manager should introduce tactics to counter the threat of a team like Bayern in their current imperious form. But Lyon?
FFS. If Shitty had their best players out there, playing the 4-3-3 formation they play week in, week out, they would have mullered Lyon. Or at least gone down playing creative, exciting, football.
I often find Mourinho's football boring to watch. But he is most definitely not a bottle job. And I would trust him to implement a tactical plan to beat better sides far more than I would Guardiola.
I can see Jose watching last night's clusterfuck with a huge and knowing grin on his face. Bring on next season's mind games.
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But after last night, the pattern is clear. The "heir to Cruyff", the "footballing philosopher", is a bottle job in the biggest matches.
If Pep is not prepared to stick to his philosophy when he has one of the most expensively & corruptly assembled squads in world football, plays De Bruyne as a right-winger, and picks all three of Gundogan, Rodri and Fernandinho leaving the creative sparks of Mahrez, the Silvas and Foden on the bench, then he's a coward.
Yes, a good manager should introduce tactics to counter the threat of a team like Bayern in their current imperious form. But Lyon?
FFS. If Shitty had their best players out there, playing the 4-3-3 formation they play week in, week out, they would have mullered Lyon. Or at least gone down playing creative, exciting, football.
I often find Mourinho's football boring to watch. But he is most definitely not a bottle job. And I would trust him to implement a tactical plan to beat better sides far more than I would Guardiola.
I can see Jose watching last night's clusterfuck with a huge and knowing grin on his face. Bring on next season's mind games.
:mourbringit::mourlmao:
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Jose, because love him or hate him, he's our manager now and that's enough to get my vote. And I still remember the Harry Kane team crack, so Pep can do one!
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Yup.
And Poch's "Messi team" retort was perfect.
Jose for the Porto CL win and he’s been at more clubs and won it all.
Don’t think Pep has won the EL?
Don’t think Pep has won the EL?
Mourinho won the treble with Porto, the ultimate underdog team.
That’s something Pep has never done, he’s always had an expensive top squad.
But having said that, I would rather watch Pep’s football over Mourinho’s any day.
Porto are one of the most successful teams in Portuguese football. Winning the league and domestic cups is no achievement.
But I've already said winning the CL with them, even with the horrific cheating, was a superb achievement. Monaco didn't stand a chance.
With or without Mourinho, Inter and Porto would have won Champions Leagues?
I think most coaches consider Jose to be among the most influential and brightest footballing minds this century. He has developed counter attacking football as much as Pep has Cruyffian total football.
I think people like to watch Pep-ball more than Mou-ball but that does not mean he has no legacy. Its like a football arms race. Defensive,organisational teams respond to great attacking teams and vice versa.