That doesn’t take away from how good he was that season. He still made PL team of the season that year despite missing all that time through injury.When he got injured and missed half the season?
The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...
That doesn’t take away from how good he was that season. He still made PL team of the season that year despite missing all that time through injury.When he got injured and missed half the season?
No but I like ArcspacE he makes me laugh (a lot).You like nonces?
That doesn’t take away from how good he was that season. He still made PL team of the season that year despite missing all that time through injury.
That is the point, had he said sell me we could all buy into that. He said ‘I’ll just go home’True but you get the point
Ok, I'll rephrase just for you.That is the point, had he said sell me we could all buy into that. He said ‘I’ll just go home’
Didn’t realise this was Danny Rose Hotspur
If we’re just repeating 3 statements yeah I’m cockahoop but there’s no common ground in any of them, so what exactly is the point.Ok, I'll rephrase just for you.
Only seen the first 3 so far, so I'm only going on comments on here. Anyway this is my take on it.
Dier to Poch: "Play me or sell me.". = Honesty.
Danny to JM: "Play me or I'll train at home." = Honesty.
Danny: "Some other players here are shit, I'm off to speak to Daniel." = Being a twat.
Happy ?
It would cost a fortune to have someone stay in the house with him to make sure he is training properly and not stuffing himself with fish and chips.If we’re just repeating 3 statements yeah I’m cockahoop but there’s no common ground in any of them, so what exactly is the point.
I thought initially you were comparing the attitude towards Dier with the attitude towards Rose highlighting that they said the same thing.
Dier clearly he isn’t happy and if he’s not being considered he’ll continue his career elsewhere
Rose clearly isn’t happy either and if he’s not being considered he’d continue his career (this may be the tricky bit) HOME? What he’s demanding money off the club to stay home, if he doesn’t get into the playing squad??
Point being?When he got injured and missed half the season?
Yes fully agree Rose was never any more than a decent 6 out of 10 man.
He had a few very good games but did not have a football brain and could not sense danger and for the last 2 years has been very poor when he has played.
I think I might of misunderstood you initially. Also I now think we're coming at the same point but from different directions ?If we’re just repeating 3 statements yeah I’m cockahoop but there’s no common ground in any of them, so what exactly is the point.
I thought initially you were comparing the attitude towards Dier with the attitude towards Rose highlighting that they said the same thing.
Dier clearly he isn’t happy and if he’s not being considered he’ll continue his career elsewhere
Rose clearly isn’t happy either and if he’s not being considered he’d continue his career (this may be the tricky bit) HOME? What he’s demanding money off the club to stay home, if he doesn’t get into the playing squad??
I like Rosey. He has been mistreated, especially by our fan base
I think we crossed wires somewhere 100% in agreement with youI think I might of misunderstood you initially. Also I now think we're coming at the same point but from different directions ?
I wouldn't expect any player to be happy at not playing.
I also expect any player to want to talk to the manager and get some reassurances or guidance on what's going to happen.
A player saying "if you're not going to play me then sell me" is fine.
Even Danny's comments about staying at "home" are ok, not great but ok. Maybe it was a poor choice of words.
It is the attitude, when a player approaches a manager, that is the issue for me. If a player starts slagging off his team mates and accusing the manager of playing favourites.
No manager will stand for that.
Danny's attitude was all wrong in that exchange. We, obvs, don't see the full exchange but, it seems to me, that Jose was saying "I played you because you trained excellent and you let me down", maybe implying that if Danny continues to train well he would get another chance.
Danny accepted that he didn't play well and instead of addressing that he turned it onto other players and the manager.
What he should of done was say something like "ok I didn't play well, show me how I can improve" or " Fair enough, but I won't let you down again and I'll prove to you that I'm good enough to play in this team".
Spurs fans want cunts in the team but can't handle it when a player points out that other players have been shit in training and matches. It's called seeing it with your eyes and calling it with your mouth.
You don't develop as much as he did and become a favourite of a manager who works his players hard if you don't know how to train hard so I'm inclined to believe him.
Jose says the most important things include "courage, honesty & family". I think telling your boss that the team/defence is doing shit in matches, players are training shit and that he hasn't had chances is all of that.
I think it went down like this.
Levy hates Rose because of how real he keeps it
Levy told Jose when he signed to push Rose out
Jose intelligently barely plays Rose, then gives a rusty Rose a chance against leaders Liverpool. Rose doesn't have a great game- justification to sideline him more.
We should never have been chucking CBs and right footed players there when he was fit.
As if we didn't have enough centre backs on the pitch when we played 5 at the back with 2 DMs against relegation crap ffs.
He's made some silly moves but overall Rose is on the right side of history. You tribal lot are not I promise you.
Still no need to resort to that level though.The guy is that wrong'un Bangkokspud. I can't think of any language more suitable