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Management Poll: Who do you want most as our next manager?
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I think it comes out in the wash.
For me its the same thinking when people say "why would the players respect X manager [from a smaller club]"
Why did they accept Poch in the first place?
...for me it comes down to the work. Poch came in, showed what he wanted, demanded what he wanted, conducted himself well and backed it up with his own effort and clear quality in management/coaching. So the players bought in.
Conversely, Mourinho came in, demanded what he wanted, but didnt back it up with the work to earn that respect/buy in and then started throwing players under the bus.
So the "Why?" for me, really comes down to not being able to hide - your quality comes through no matter what (or lack thereof).
If Conte comes in, Mourinho like with high expectations etc, but his work engages the players and makes them believe they will succeed with him - then he'll be fine IMO.
It has gotten to the point where Levy’s reputation automatically causes the other side to dig their heels in.
Levy wants Poch back, PSG wants a big fee, so Levy will bullshit around with Conte trying to make them afraid of the mess they’d be left in if we go another way.
See you after the Euros.
I think a big difference between Mourinho and Conte is that Contes demands are crazy high, both physically and mentally. Mourinho strikes me as more of a hands off guy who is used to working with good pros who look after themselves off the pitch. The lazyness in this squad won't be accepted by Conte.
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That has happened to basically every Chelsea manager who has ever won the league or CL, it will happen to Tuchel as well.
There seem to be two different arguments on Conte here. One is that he will build a relationship with the squad and be able to coach them into good results. The other is that he will need strong support on transfers to build his squad, and then will deliver results.
Which is it? Is he good enough as a coach to improve what he comes in to, or is he dependent on transfers to change the squad? Given the financial situation of all clubs right now, post-COVID, I do not think a guy needing the second option is going to be in a happy place.
Which is it? Is he good enough as a coach to improve what he comes in to, or is he dependent on transfers to change the squad? Given the financial situation of all clubs right now, post-COVID, I do not think a guy needing the second option is going to be in a happy place.
Conte is undoubtedly a top class manager.
But, I still can’t shake the feeling that this is a recipe for disaster.
I just cannot see why he would be stupid enough to take the job when he knows full well he’s not going to get anywhere close to the backing he received at either Chelsea or Inter, whom he each left for the very reason that he didn’t get backed enough!
I really just cannot see it ending well...
But, I still can’t shake the feeling that this is a recipe for disaster.
I just cannot see why he would be stupid enough to take the job when he knows full well he’s not going to get anywhere close to the backing he received at either Chelsea or Inter, whom he each left for the very reason that he didn’t get backed enough!
I really just cannot see it ending well...
But it also happened at Inter, and Juve. This is a guy who gets in fights with the board over transfers. And then leaves the club. So, if this is the pattern of behaviour, given the nature of Tottenham Hotspur as a club, is bringing Conte in wise? Because we're not changing for him.
Conte can work with a less than ideal squad, he did take Victor Moses and Marcos Alonso to a PL trophy after all. But in that same season he also signed Kante.
We don't have to add amazing quality in every position but Conte needs a strong core of players to work with and we simply don't have that. We are going to have to spend on 3 or 4 good players to get ourselves to where Chelsea were when he took over there.
It happens at every top club, look at Zidane, look at the succession of PSG managers, it's the way it is. If the argument against Conte is that he has high standards then we have entered bizarro world. This shambles of a squad needs someone like that, who will watch Sissoko in the rondo and then ask the chairman why he is allowed onto the training pitch.
More important than who the manager is, is that Levy reflects on his failings and changes. If that doesn't happen then it doesn't matter who we bring in, we will continue to be irrelevant.
Anyone coming in will need to rebuild the squad. I just worry that Conte will quit by Christmas because Levy and Conte fall out over transfers and we are embarrassed even more as a club after the Mourinho debacle. It is like Levy has been going out of his way the last few years to make us the laughing stocks of the premier league.
I think the argument is that Conte has a habit of having unrealistic demands, and then picking fights with people who he can't beat. If that's the case, then you cannot treat him as someone you plan with, as much as plan around.
Alot of the players he brought in at Inter are players that most of us would have turned our noses up at. Lukaku and Sanchez for example were awful coming from United. His coaching improved them.
I think it's a bit of a myth that Conte is a chequebook manager. He built some really good teams from fuck all and only seems to get frustrated when the board won't give him the control/backing to push on even further.
Real Madrid and PSG are poles apart within the football hierarchy than Spurs and Everton. Would expect Everton to have poached Zidane from Real Madrid?
This is all about PSG not looking like cunts, there will up uproar if we pull this off, it will be one of the biggest coups ever in the history of the game.
It's far more likely that he stays. And also far more likely they sack him a few months down the road as it asserts their control. They can do this because they are backed by an entire Country's Wealth (one of the wealthiest in the World at that).
We could probably sell Sterling £40 million I don't see the point in keeping him if we also have Son & Lucas. Unless we sell Lucas instead.
If its Conte, it has to be an indication of big changes in policy at Spurs. Otherwise he'd never agree to come. He knows he can walk into any top job he wants. Rumors that we had contacted the former Juve DOF would fit with a big change.
Kane made it clear in that Neville interview that Mourinho just expected a lot of stuff to happen off the players own backs.
Perhaps some fairness to that, but regardless its his job to make sure it happens. So if the players arent doing it, make them - where as Mourinho seemed to just say "ah fuck it!" instead.
Isnt the story at Inter that he fell out with them because they just cut the budget massively and expected him to sell off loads of players to balance the books? After picking up Inter where he did, and taking them to the title for the first time in a decade - I dont blame him for feeling he/they deserved more.
Similarly with Juve, dont forget where they were when he went in there and what he achieved.
Both examples of taking a team from relative nowhere to winning the league.
Similarly with Chelsea, though it can be argued they were in a falsely low position.
I think, reading up on him, what seems to get ignored is a) how adaptable he is to get the best from his squad and b) how many players improve under him. Both qualities that would serve him well with us, and qualities lacking in Mourinho.
About fucking time elite manager who kicks ass.