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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane
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But you do admit the others are big game players much more than Kane?
Oh by the way I’ve noticed you’ve slipped in conversion rate and muddied the waters
I started off talking about shot accuracy
Hope this clears things up a little about Kane and Son at least
Premier League top scorers ranked by shot conversion
Our Premier League top scorers ranking puts Son so far ahead of the competition it is utterly ridiculous. It's a freak season.
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So people need to come up with different arguments or just say "fair point" and move on
1000 pages could be removed from thread with that little statement instead of trying to going off track and posting stats that include what he's done against relegation level teams and teams like Pacos/Mura
But you do admit the others are big game players much more than Kane?
Absolutely. I don't argue for the sake of it when they're facts. But as I've said about Lewandowski what feels like a thousand times... He plays for a far better team, will generally have many, many more chances than Harry every game and plays the vast majority of his games against dog shit teams that are beaten before a ball has even been kicked.
So Jiminez, Calvert Lewin, Richarlison, Lacazette, and Aubameyang all play for far better teams?
And Son leads the league in goals against the big 4 teams so... kind of shits on your argument about it being the teams fault.
Fair
As long as we've made that clear
We are on the same page then.
Nothing more to discuss.
But you and your alter ego are the ones who keep bringing up son. No one else but ye. Over and overOh by the way I’ve noticed you’ve slipped in conversion rate and muddied the waters
I started off talking about shot accuracy
Hope this clears things up a little about Kane and Son at least
Premier League top scorers ranked by shot conversion
Our Premier League top scorers ranking puts Son so far ahead of the competition it is utterly ridiculous. It's a freak season.
You're the one that mentioned "Salah, Son, Lewa, Mbappe, Halland" in the post I was replying to, you pipe.
Like I said earlier, Son scores more individual goals than Kane in that he can create and score something from nothing. In games we're not playing well in. Everyone knows that Harry often relies on good service. So it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that Son has a better record in the bigger games, though not overall. He's also a world-class player himself.
So why dont you come up with a different arguement and say fair point and move on??
Oh by the way I’ve noticed you’ve slipped in conversion rate and muddied the waters
I started off talking about shot accuracy
Hope this clears things up a little about Kane and Son at least
Premier League top scorers ranked by shot conversion
Our Premier League top scorers ranking puts Son so far ahead of the competition it is utterly ridiculous. It's a freak season.
Did you fail to read the bit where the person in the actual article mentions he takes 1/3 of his shots from outside the box, and therefore obviously he's going to have lower shot accuracy than strikers who only shoot from inside? Again .. as did Van Persie, Rooney, Aguero, Suarez etc .. because great strikers take on a lot more shots, and more difficult ones, than technically average ones do.
Kane doesn't have low shot accuracy compared to his peers, who are the top strikers in the world. All the examples I've given you prove this, without any doubt. The fact guys like Callum Wilson are near the top of the list you sent me should show you why having a high shot accuracy % really doesn't mean much.
Your 'Kane only scores a lot because he takes lots of shots' point is entirely null and void. Callum Wilson and Vardy would take more shots on if they felt they had the ability to score from those positions on a regular basis.
The reason why Son is brought up is because he debunks the myth that Kane's faults are due to the "team's overall play" rather than Kane himself. Son absolutely demolishes this theory.
Kane can't score against big 4 opposition on a consistent basis because he's not elite. It's as simple as that.
It was ONE of the reasons. Not the reason. But youll pick what suits and run with it. Everyone here has said kane has played bad in big games. Same as every other player. Son didnt score in any of the finals or semis but noone said here its made him less of a player
Kane's teammate is on the top of this list
So what's Kane excuse?
Goals against the Premier League Big 4 since 18/19 season:
Son: 11 goals
Aubameyang: 10 goals
Salah*: 10 goals
Mane*: 9 goals
Rashford*: 9 goals
Vardy: 8 goals
Jiminez**: 7 goals
Calvert Lewin: 7 goals
Martial*: 7 goals
Richarlson: 7 goals
Lacazette: 6 goals
Sterling*: 6 goals
Firmino*: 5 goals
Ings: 5 goals
Kane: 5 goals
C Wilson: 3 goals
Jesus*: 2 goals
Wood: 2 goals
*Only includes games against 3 of the top 4 teams
**Jiminez missed the majority of last season due to head injury
So are you saying all those above Kane must be better than him because they've scored a few more goals against the best sides? Because that seems to be the rather silly and simpleton kind of logic you're trying to imply.
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Starve them of their oxygen
Starve them of their oxygen
It means he’s a flat track bully. That’s all. Good against lesser sides. Average to Below average against top sides.
Well he's our top scorer every season and also challenges for the Golden Boot every season. So I'm more than happy with that. If only more strikers could be world-class "flat track bully's".
Fair enough
Can we all just agree that Spammy is right about everything, and has the biggest bestest monolithic football knowledge that dwarfs the collective experience and opinions of the entire forum put together?
Then perhaps we can get this fucking thread back.
Then perhaps we can get this fucking thread back.