Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

[KaneDomBadBoy]

Wow, you're gonna elevate the ECL right now, huh? There's a term for the goalscorer of those goals but I'm gonna need KaneDomBadBoy 's help to remember it.

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Mate, I wish I could call him a flat track bully but he's not even that anymore.

He's just dog shit.

Period.

Then where are his goals? Why doesn't he just go and score them then? What's he waiting for? We could use them right now. Presently he's only slightly more lethal than Bergwijn.

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He’s saving them for Pacos and Mura. The ECL is where the real world class players show their stuff.

 

[RealCoolYid]

Of the 3 results at the start of the season, the 1-0 wins, the only one where we had any control was against Watford, where Kane also played. Wolves was a fluke win and Man City wasn't far behind in terms of being a lucky result.

Our best result/performance of the season was against Newcastle; Kane scoring and assisting and the change of system from the start of the season, as we played 4231 in this game with Ndombele at #10. The 2nd best performance was the 2-1 win against an out of form Villa. Again 4231 with Kane.

We have been crap this season, with Kane or without. We have won some games, with Kane or without. We have either beaten teams riding our luck (Man City and Wolves) or because the team is poor/in bad form (Watford, Villa, Newcastle). There was no "great start" unless you think lucky 1-0 wins are sustainable and as we see, they are not. We can't play crap teams every week and when we come up against a team that vaguely has their shit together, we get beat unless luck is on our side (eg Wolves game).

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I was just putting some facts out there

That’s a nice piece detailing your opinions

I can’t right now be bothered to expound on mine, some may tally with yours

But facts remain the facts

Won first 3 games of the season 4:3:3

Lost heavily the following when the system changed

Followed by mixed results since

Who knows how the 4:3:3 would have fared? Be hard to imagine it could have done worse chavs/palace/goons

 

[VonnegutBusy]

Kane is fucking shite lets be honest.

Finished at Spurs.

 

[KEDS]

I was just putting some facts out there

That’s a nice piece detailing your opinions

I can’t right now be bothered to expound on mine, some may tally with yours

But facts remain the facts

Won first 3 games of the season 4:3:3

Lost heavily the following when the system changed

Followed by mixed results since

Who knows how the 4:3:3 would have fared? Be hard to imagine it could have done worse chavs/palace/goons

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We returned to the 4-3-3 against Woolwich and got completely outplayed, Nuno has looked back since. I'd love to see us play with 5 ATB with Skipp and Ndombele/Lo Celso (it's pick your poison at this point).

Skipp and Hojbjerg together just don't offer with their limited passing ability, and defensively they're not "solid" as we are led to believe. It'll never happen, but at the moment, i'd drop Hojbjerg. Aside from PEH scoring a few goals, Skipp seems to be much better at everything and is far more composed.

 

[Igula]

Then where are his goals? Why doesn't he just go and score them then? What's he waiting for? We could use them right now. Presently he's only slightly more lethal than Bergwijn.

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You think him being able to create his own goals means he just scores at will?

 

[Igula]

How do you know a plan doesn't exist? And if it doesn't exist now then surely it didn't exist when the foundations were laid for the successful team you started following. So why not throw it all to chance again? Especially since we are going to be a mid-table team either way? At least this way we have some money in our pockets and don't look like sad sacks with a striker that doesn't want to be here.

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Because I have seen what each have done in their careers and since coming here. There is zero plan in terms of squad construction, zero plan in terms of attack, zero plan in terms of options up front.

Why would that all of a sudden change now?

And I'm pretty sure, as is common in situations where people throw up conditions like these, that whatever 'plan' we came up with you would find some reason to strike it down as not good enough. Why? Because your motives are not based in reason but emotion. You will only relent after the season is over, we are 12th, and you'd look like a fool to suggest otherwise. It happens all the time round here. What I'm saying is don't go full Guido 🇺🇦 here! You've seen the Dele thread.

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Nope that is not true at all. I have said I am open to selling him and even suggested a very easy, open plan (hire Potter) that I would have been fine with.

My motives are 100% based on reason, if they were based on emotion I would being saying never sell Kane under any circumstance.

Where are the goals? He bag one today?

Wow, you're gonna elevate the ECL right now, huh? There's a term for the goalscorer of those goals but I'm gonna need KaneDomBadBoy 's help to remember it.

He has 1 league goal FFS and that was against Newcastle who are going down. Ndom and PEH have as many league goals as the player we must keep at all costs. Sonny has 4.

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I am not elevating the ECL or bragging about Kane just pointing out that he is the teams leading scorer overall and the joint 2nd scorer in the PL. That isn't great but shows how terrible we are outside of Kane. The ECL goals don't mean much but nobody else is scoring in those games. If Moura, Bergwijn, Gil, Scarlett were ready to replace Kane how come they aren't racking up goals in the ECL?

But that's not what anyone is thinking is it? It's only the argument you are adhering to because it works for you but it's disingenuous at best. Surely the plan would have been to purchase another striker...and since Daka and the guy from Celtic at Palace have more goals than Kane there was a possiblity to buy some goals is that's how you see football. Personally I would have bought some midfield first since I know that most strikers don't do anything other than tap them in...just like Harry.

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The plan should have been to purchase another striker with Kane here and we didn't. I don't think it is disingenuous at all to think we wouldn't have bought anyone.

And people are suggesting we should replace Kane with a bergwijn-Son-Moura frontline so yes people are thinking it.

I think you vastly overrate what most teams think of as a plan. So few do it.

But we don't know what they had in store if Kane was sold. We'll never know.

Surely a striker would have been purchased. This strawman should die.

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Again I would not say surely about anything being bought. Surely a back-up striker should have been bought. Surely a RW to replace Bale's goals last year should have been bought, surely a creative MF should have been bought, surely two new CBs should have been bought, surely a starting RB should have been bought,

None of those things happened what has this club shown you that would make you think they are run in any competent way?

If the plan was to buy guys like Vlahovic as a replacement like many fans want that is a dogshit plan as well.

 

[Luxy208]

I really hope Kane is off in january.

 

[rusty]

can't see Kane being allowed to leave in Januray, there will be no offers near Levy's asking price
looking at how he is playing would you offer £40M for him ?
maybe a low fee but lots of goal scored addon's ?

 

[sammyspurs]

I feel like I finally don’t need to post in here anymore……..but………..

Why is everyone repeating themselves?

Kane’s shit, move on

 

[Murphy]

can't see Kane being allowed to leave in Januray, there will be no offers near Levy's asking price
looking at how he is playing would you offer £40M for him ?
maybe a low fee but lots of goal scored addon's ?

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Absolutely no chance he's going for £40m in January.

For starters we would then need two strikers and that money will barely get you one.

At this point the best we can hope for is the Newcastle revolution and they offer silly money, but he's then going for money, not trophies. His City dream is gone forever now. Is Pep going to be in for a non-performing, sulking player that looks a shadow of his former self? Or since they are doing ok, wait six months and get Haaland?

He isn't trying, doesn't care and could possibly be the cause of most of the ill feeling and discontent in the squad. He pulled the shit he pulled and walked straight back into the team. Doesn't get subbed. Doesn't get dug out.

England's captain. LMAO.

 

[rusty]

I agree City or any other top club will be after Haaland in summer, Kane on this form is not worth £50/60 M, he is 29 yrs old why play more
he is stuck with us & we are stuck with him
remember Torres his form was dropping at Liverpool and he wanted to go to chelsea, he went to chelsea and was awful unable to regain his real liverpool form

 

[ArcspacE]

So so sad to see it all end like this.

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It ALL on the greedy scum maggot Levy

Kane should have put in a transfer request through the
official channels and explained to the fans he needs to move on due to lack of trophies. EVERY SINGLE FAN would have understood. Then Levy sells for a hefty profit

Instead the bald cunt lied to Kane, lied the fans and lied to City. And now he stands to lose so much more

Astute businessman - LMFAO. More like a clueless tax dodging buffoon just like his old nonce boss

 

[rusty]

none of us know what went on between Levy & Kane, but i just feel Kane believe he was allowed extra time off & would be allowed to go
you may say he should have got it in writing, but surely you still to your word
i don't blame Kane for his poor form, if i was a multi millionaire i would not be tring that hard if i felt I had been wronged,

 

[Murphy]

none of us know what went on between Levy & Kane, but i just feel Kane believe he was allowed extra time off & would be allowed to go
you may say he should have got it in writing, but surely you still to your word
i don't blame Kane for his poor form, if i was a multi millionaire i would not be tring that hard if i felt I had been wronged,

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He's paid millions to play football. In any other job, not performing because you are pissed off with the boss gets you sacked.

I hated bosses at previous jobs, but you aren't there to be their friend, you do what are are told and is needed until you can change it. Granted here he has a contract (which is also protection, getting paid when injured etc) but for whatever reason he didn't get what he wanted.

Oh well. That's sad. Fucking get on with it.

He's so detached from reality. But that's footballers.

 

[rusty]

He's paid millions to play football. In any other job, not performing because you are pissed off with the boss gets you sacked.

I hated bosses at previous jobs, but you aren't there to be their friend, you do what are are told and is needed until you can change it. Granted here he has a contract (which is also protection, getting paid when injured etc) but for whatever reason he didn't get what he wanted.

Oh well. That's sad. Fucking get on with it.

He's so detached from reality. But that's footballers.

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The point I'm making is all EPL players are millionaires they don't have to do what their bosses want them to do, they can just sit on their contracts until they end

managers have little control over these guys, so to get them to play well you have to be winning things like City/chelsea/liverpool or make training intresting,
it not like when i played we had guys who would warn you about how poor you were then lay you out, football was their saturday afternoon outlet

 

[tart]

My August valuation of £120 million is just a dim & distant dream this morning. Who'd buy Kane now? Nobody with any sense. We're stuck with him and his wages. Yet another dead horse we can't even flog. We're buggered. Thanks Harry, you selfish bastard.
Levy is another selfish fool - more interested in flexing his 'I'm in charge' muscles than doing what was right for the club. Idiot.

Drop Kane from the first team squad. Look to the future.

 

[Murphy]

The point I'm making is all EPL players are millionaires they don't have to do what their bosses want them to do, they can just sit on their contracts until they end

managers have little control over these guys, so to get them to play well you have to be winning things like City/chelsea/liverpool or make training intresting,
it not like when i played we had guys who would warn you about how poor you were then lay you out, football was their saturday afternoon outlet

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Managers can control whether they play or not though.

The same players that got Frank sacked won the Champion's League and look one of the favourites to win the PL this year. That's proper coaching, motivation and managing your squad.

 

[Nuts]

I wish the official THFC tweet congratulating Kane for playing 350 games would fuck off appearing in my feed.

 

[bert jenkinson]

Of the 3 results at the start of the season, the 1-0 wins, the only one where we had any control was against Watford, where Kane also played. Wolves was a fluke win and Man City wasn't far behind in terms of being a lucky result.

Our best result/performance of the season was against Newcastle; Kane scoring and assisting and the change of system from the start of the season, as we played 4231 in this game with Ndombele at #10. The 2nd best performance was the 2-1 win against an out of form Villa. Again 4231 with Kane.

We have been crap this season, with Kane or without. We have won some games, with Kane or without. We have either beaten teams riding our luck (Man City and Wolves) or because the team is poor/in bad form (Watford, Villa, Newcastle). There was no "great start" unless you think lucky 1-0 wins are sustainable and as we see, they are not. We can't play crap teams every week and when we come up against a team that vaguely has their shit together, we get beat unless luck is on our side (eg Wolves game).

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I am not going to go to any more games this season until we improve, the team are not worthy of our support, we are fortunate to have already gained 15 points and are fortunate that we have norwich,newcastle and a couple of other poor sides otherwise we could be facing the prospect of relegation, poch should never have been allowed to leave, levy must go and take the clown nuno with him, as for kanee if anyone is stupid enough to pay decent money let him go.

 

[mojo]

What makes (or made) Kane very good was his willingness to do more high intensity sprints than anyone else. He never was a huge natural talent. I predicted that this willingness would taper off with age and then from being a very good player, he will now just be a good player. We're going to see the Kane of old from time to time, but in short spells only. Btw, I think the same will apply to Haaland in Dortmund - same type of player who is going to lose his edge in his mid-twenties.