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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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I'm not gonna slate Levy for not giving in to a poor Man City offer.

I'm not gonna slate Nuno for picking him.

Kane is one of the people that comes out the worst in all this mess. He's let the entire club down. Strip him of the vice-captaincy.
 
One just needs to look at Wayne Rooney's regression/decline to put Kane's regression/decline in perspective.

Rooney scored 34 goals in 2011 at the age of 26

The next 4 years, he scored 16, 19, 14, 15 and goals with Man Utd. He was still scoring a decent amount of goals but clearly not the same player.

A couple years after that he was in the MLS at the age of 32.

A cautionary tale for Kane and those that still think that his regression/decline is simply nothing more than a rough patch in form.
 
One just needs to look at Wayne Rooney's regression/decline to put Kane's regression/decline in perspective.

Rooney scored 34 goals in 2011 at the age of 26

The next 4 years, he scored 16, 19, 14, 15 and goals with Man Utd. He was still scoring a decent amount of goals but clearly not the same player.

A couple years after that he was in the MLS at the age of 32.

A cautionary tale for Kane and those that still think that his regression/decline is simply nothing more than a rough patch in form.
It's a bit like watching Dele Alli. If he doesn't score or assist, there is nothing.
 
One just needs to look at Wayne Rooney's regression/decline to put Kane's regression/decline in perspective.

Rooney scored 34 goals in 2011 at the age of 26

The next 4 years, he scored 16, 19, 14, 15 and goals with Man Utd. He was still scoring a decent amount of goals but clearly not the same player.

A couple years after that he was in the MLS at the age of 32.

A cautionary tale for Kane and those that still think that his regression/decline is simply nothing more than a rough patch in form.

Tbf Rooney's problem was he was playing professional football from such a young age. Quite often when players are getting regular league football at 17/18 their careers tail off earlier, ala Michael Owen. Not always of course, but it's hard to sustain a career from when you're 17 to mid 30's. It doesn't help that Rooney was awful at looking after himself, he drank alcohol, smoked, and regularly turned up to seasons overweight.

Now Kane was a late developer so shouldn't be burned out, and from all reports is extremely professional and looks after himself well. So I don't think that he should suffer those same issues. The build up of ankle issues could have had an impact, but it seems strange that he'd be done before 30, it's extremely early considering when his career got going.

I don't think we'll know for sure till he moves whether he is done, or just done whilst he's at Spurs.
 
We relied too heavily on Kane irrespective of the City debacle or not Kane has a shelf life like everybody else and the day would come where he wouldn‘t be here any other club at any level in any league would have a plan B either dual strikers or younger strikers coming through or buying an experienced striker for back up Llorente but no, not us no plan B.
 
Tbf Rooney's problem was he was playing professional football from such a young age. Quite often when players are getting regular league football at 17/18 their careers tail off earlier, ala Michael Owen. Not always of course, but it's hard to sustain a career from when you're 17 to mid 30's. It doesn't help that Rooney was awful at looking after himself, he drank alcohol, smoked, and regularly turned up to seasons overweight.

Now Kane was a late developer so shouldn't be burned out, and from all reports is extremely professional and looks after himself well. So I don't think that he should suffer those same issues. The build up of ankle issues could have had an impact, but it seems strange that he'd be done before 30, it's extremely early considering when his career got going.

I don't think we'll know for sure till he moves whether he is done, or just done whilst he's at Spurs.
For me personally, both statistics and the eye test suggest that Kane is on the decline, irrespective of age. Kane has had a history of injuries so I'm sure it has a lot to do with it.

The normal regression/decline of a player always starts with struggling against top teams and then it spirals down from there. It's the same for any professional sport.

We all know he's struggled against good opposition over the last 2-3 years. The next step for him will be struggling against bang average teams which we're starting to see already.

The question is, how fast is his decline going to be? Is he going to be out of the PL by the time he's 32 like Rooney?

Like you said, time will tell.
 
For me personally, both statistics and the eye test suggest that Kane is on the decline, irrespective of age. Kane has had a history of injuries so I'm sure it has a lot to do with it.

The normal regression/decline of a player always starts with struggling against top teams and then it spirals down from there. It's the same for any professional sport.

We all know he's struggled against good opposition over the last 2-3 years. The next step for him will be struggling against bang average teams which we're starting to see already.

The question is, how fast is his decline going to be? Is he going to be out of the PL by the time he's 32 like Rooney?

Like you said, time will tell.

Kane's never been good against top teams anyway though. His big game record was always questionable, he's the type of player who does struggle in tight games when there's not much service, because he struggles to create his own chances.

I have a sneaking suspicion he's not done and when he moves, he'll be fine. I'm seeing a miserable player who is just going through the motions till he gets what he wants. Not deliberately playing badly but not giving enough of a fuck to turn it around either.

But yeah .. we'll see.
 
One just needs to look at Wayne Rooney's regression/decline to put Kane's regression/decline in perspective.

Rooney scored 34 goals in 2011 at the age of 26

The next 4 years, he scored 16, 19, 14, 15 and goals with Man Utd. He was still scoring a decent amount of goals but clearly not the same player.

A couple years after that he was in the MLS at the age of 32.

A cautionary tale for Kane and those that still think that his regression/decline is simply nothing more than a rough patch in form.

If Harry goes to any top club and scores just about every other week, you'll only say it's because of the other players there.

It's so strange to have two Tottenham fans so happy that one of our players and longest servants is doing so badly currently, despite it having an effect on the club negatively, though you're not quite at the same level of shithousery as your best mate here.
 
If Harry goes to any top club and scores just about every other week, you'll only say it's because of the other players there.

It's so strange to have two Tottenham fans so happy that one of our players and longest servants is doing so badly currently, despite it having an effect on the club negatively, though you're not quite at the same level of shithousery as your best mate here.
Not happy about it, just right about it.

Why aren’t you screaming Golden Boot anymore and eagerly awaiting him scoring 15 PL goals by Christmas?

Duuuuuuuuh
 
If Harry goes to any top club and scores just about every other week, you'll only say it's because of the other players there.
Mate, here's the deal. Kane went from being one of the top strikers in the world 3 years ago to being not even the best attacker on a mid table club.

So my point is, if Kane can score 25+ goals a game for City, then there are likely many strikers/forwards out there including Son that would be able to score 25+ goals playing #9 for City.
 
Mate, here's the deal. Kane went from being one of the top strikers in the world 3 years ago to being not even the best attacker on a mid table club.

So my point is, if Kane can score 25+ goals a game for City, then there are likely many strikers/forwards out there including Son that would be able to score 25+ goals playing #9 for City.

He's literally had a poor couple of months. He wasn't great at the back end of last season but under Mourinho he was clearly a top player in an average side. He started slow at the Euros but still got what, 4 or so goals in the end, which any striker would take going into it.

I think it's a bit too soon to say he's suddenly finished as a player. In fact I think it's fucking mental.
 
He's not finished as a player, no. I think he'll still continue to perform against below average and inferior teams for another 2-3 years.

But remember, it took Rooney 6 years from scoring 34 goals to being in the MLS. There were a good 5-6 years of average to below average PL years during his regression/decline.

Rooney was a slob though. Hugely talented and for a couple of years in his early 20's he was one of the best players on the planet. But his lifestyle was always going to catch up with him sooner rather than later. Kane is showing his wanker side but in regards to looking after himself he's a different animal compared to someone like Wayne.
 
If you don't want to use Rooney as an example, insert ____________________ player that's declined in their late 20s as a reference. Deuterz Deuterz listed several recent examples in one of his earlier posts. It's not a new phenomena.

Get him on the ball and I think Kane will still be a great player down the line. Our problem currently is that his head and heart isn't really in it and he's not searching for the ball as he's always done, and our midfield is so ordinary they don't have the ability to find him constantly even if he wanted it. The only one that does is Ndombele, but we all know he has plenty of issues himself. Fitness, consistency, Burger King, etc etc.

If he gets his City move he'll score, he'll assist, and they'll be a better side than they are now for it.
 
Why would you even want him to score and assist for City? That's weird. If he goes there I would want him to fking be miserable

What part of my post said I want him to do that? I just said that he will, in my opinion, if he does get that move. That's why people get so rattled in regards to yourself and sammyspurs. You often completely make things up in your own heads or twist words to suit your agendas.
 
What I'm saying is who cares what he does at City? What matters is what he does for us. I'm not a Harry Kane fan. I'm a Spurs fan.

If he does score for City it isn't saying much given he's not the best attacker on a midtable team. Going to City and scoring doesn't change that.

So I'm not allowed or supposed to say I think he will do great at City, because I support Tottenham? But you would be perfectly fine if I said he will be dog shit for them no doubt...

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His value is dropping like a concrete parachute at the moment !!
I can't see any club paying even 50 mill for him in January unless he starts lighting it up.
The bald guy is not going to look good on this debacle.
 
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