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Transfers January 2022 - Transfer Window

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Pay a small fee given he has 6 months left and get Kessie in Jan. He's only going to down tools anyway. Why wait for someone else to get a pre-agreement in. Act now. For me, this will be a clear indicator that levy has changed!

If at all possible we should absolutely do this; but AC's willingness is all-important.
 
I would like Brozovic but as bus conductor (I think it was him) has said he is getting old and slow so what I would love is to bring in the 20-24 year old Brozovic, who that is I do not know though.

As for HG if we move Winks and Alli and bring in Brozovic and Kessie, I think if we bring in a HG keeper 2, say someone like Sam Johnstone and a HG CB or striker then we should be fine.
 
I would like Brozovic but as bus conductor (I think it was him) has said he is getting old and slow so what I would love is to bring in the 20-24 year old Brozovic, who that is I do not know though.

As for HG if we move Winks and Alli and bring in Brozovic and Kessie, I think if we bring in a HG keeper 2, say someone like Sam Johnstone and a HG CB or striker then we should be fine.

The million $$$ question awaits........
 
As already stated: I have no names to offer..... Seemingly you don't either.

Hopefully the scouts are on the case, but I don't recall any links recently........

I'd be all over scouting the championship, personally. There's usually a few decent talents knocking about there ala Eze, Grealish (had we actually signed him lmao) and Zaha, which can be picked up for relatively cheap and fulfil HG quotas. I really like Ivan Toney too, but that won't be possible till the end of the season and even then may be a bit overpriced.

Norwich are inevitably going down, so if Max Aarons was gettable on a reasonable deal it would be worth a shout. Not set the world on fire at all and never worth the big fees quoted, but another relegation might force Norwich in to a cheaper sale. I'm also a big fan of Olise at Reading and Dael Fry from Middlesbrough could be a decent squad option.

But honestly, when it comes to HG, we need the academy to come good.
 
I'd be all over scouting the championship, personally. There's usually a few decent talents knocking about there ala Eze, Grealish (had we actually signed him lmao) and Zaha, which can be picked up for relatively cheap and fulfil HG quotas. I really like Ivan Toney too, but that won't be possible till the end of the season and even then may be a bit overpriced.

Norwich are inevitably going down, so if Max Aarons was gettable on a reasonable deal it would be worth a shout. Not set the world on fire at all and never worth the big fees quoted, but another relegation might force Norwich in to a cheaper sale. I'm also a big fan of Olise at Reading and Dael Fry from Middlesbrough could be a decent squad option.

But honestly, when it comes to HG, we need the academy to come good.
Max Aarons = Ryan Sessegnon.
 
Max Aarons = Ryan Sessegnon.

Disagree. I watched a lot of Sessegnon at Fulham and never saw any real good attributes for a fullback. He was very good at popping up with goals so I always thought if he did make it, it would be further up the pitch.

Aaarons has got some good attributes as an actual rb. He's nowhere close to a guaranteed deal, but as a HG back up right back, if the price is 15-20 I'd see it as worth a shot. Anything more than that wouldn't be worth bothering with.
 
I would like Brozovic but as bus conductor (I think it was him) has said he is getting old and slow so what I would love is to bring in the 20-24 year old Brozovic, who that is I do not know though.

As for HG if we move Winks and Alli and bring in Brozovic and Kessie, I think if we bring in a HG keeper 2, say someone like Sam Johnstone and a HG CB or striker then we should be fine.
Get rid of Doherty and replace him with a HG.
 
As already stated: I have no names to offer..... Seemingly you don't either.

Hopefully the scouts are on the case, but I don't recall any links recently........

I have a ton of random names but none that I think have any link so it would just be a long list that are maybes.

But there are a lot of of options out there. HG quota should not be an issue if we sell Dele and Alli and certainly should not prevent us from upgrading those positions whether in January or in the summer.
 
We need first XI upgrades before we start worrying about squad depth.

So that means a good LCB (Pau Torres), deep lying playmaker (Brozovic), and probably another CM (Kessie) as our group are all pretty unreliable.

I agree we need first team 11 my point was we should not worry about HG issues if we are strengthening our first 11 because we can sort out the HG concerns in the squad depth which will be easier to fill.
 
He never failed under Poch, he was mostly injured, he never got a chance under Mason at all, he was chucked under a bus early on for the sake of Mourinho's ego, and it's hard to put much stock in Mourinho's judgement last few years isn't it? and Nuno was picking him every week lately until Saturday, and that went well for him.

There's been a lot of bollocks written about Ndombele and his willingness to exert himself. Last game he played he covered more ground than anyone. His defensive metrics, pressures etc were better than all our other midfielders bar Hojbjerg's last season. That's not to say I'm blind to his weaknesses, I just think they've been over stated because fundamentally Mourinho scapegoated him and the shit stuck, so instead of getting "fair" criticism, it was hyped out of proportion.

He's got areas he definitely needs to improve, but he's actually still quite young and hasn't really had great coaching the last two years has he?

He's never been quite right for a CM2, few Cm's are, certainly not the ones that can do what he does, at Lyon he mostly played in a CM3. Mourinho constantly playing CM2's was part of the problem. Maybe if we get a proper coach (which we seem to have now) and get him back in a CM3 with a proper 6 next to him (and Kessie is not being bought to do what Ndombele does, he's much more of a 6 than an 8, just one that is also technically comfortable too) we might just see the player we saw at Lyon.

Either way, if he gets a run of games in the format that suits him best, at least then we can judge him properly, instead of judging him based on the last 2 years of mismanagement and wasting his natural skill set trying to get him to be a fucking water carrier or a triquartista. If we then judge him not good enough, then fair enough.



I wish you would look at some statistics before posting. You will see from the attached link that Poch certainly started Ndombele consistently (having demanded Spurs most expensive player, he could hardly not do so) - but consistently Poch yanked him off during the 2nd half

In his first season he started 12 PL games and subbed on in 9 games, playing 1007 minutes (ave over 21 games is 48 mins/game) as he finished very few games.

In his 2nd season (20/21) he started 28 PL games and subbed on in 5 games for a total of 2106 minutes played (ave 64 mins played over 33 mins) as he rarely finished the games he started

No surprises that he has only finished ONE PL game this season.

Over the 2 + years he has been at Spurs he's played 90 mins on a PL match LESS than 10 times - no matter which manager he played under he lacks the basic fitness to play the PL games - and firget the cup games which might mean him playing mid week !

Nobody doubts his ability to play well - but he seems better on Youtube with a few minutes than over any length of time in a game - hence he's pulled off by every manager

And no surprise he is not in French squads either.

I repeat, we need Kessie or other creative CM in to paper over Ndombele's inability to play full games. And I'd be staggered if Ndombele can suddenly play 90 minutes a game under Conte after failing to do so in last 2 years. And if Ndombele cannot play 90 minutes once a week (when Conte really wants players to do 90 minutes at weekends and mid week....... Ndombele will be off when we get good replacements in
 
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