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Manager Antonio Conte

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We’re not making Top 4 with shit-cunts like Dier, Davies and Winks in our first 11

Conte is a great manager but not a magician

Dier, to me, is one who may surprise us, Conte will be whispering "you follow my every detail, Qatar is there for you Eric".

Just need to work on him falling away every 2nd or 3rd game in quick succession (fitness/recovery/nutrition won't cut it as well for him post op. though an epic probiotic regimen wouldn't hurt).

Think he showed balls Sunday, without him out there we're 3-0 down at half time.
 
I wouldn't include dier, in the last match he played masterclass and IMHO he is fit for a 3 defence.
winks is not in the first 11, the problem is that skippy and GLC are not good enough too

He was playing against a team struggling in 17th with their 2 best players missing. We also played the first half with 7 men in defence most of the time.
Ali Gold pointed out, rightly, that had Mourinho or Nuno played 343 and had the 4 stay back that much, that us fans would have been delirious with rage.

2nd half was a total change, we pushed forward and made Leeds do the defending.

In short, we don't want to play 6 or 7 at the back to make Dier and co look good. What we want, is the back 3 to look good enough that the middle 4 can attack without fear.
 
He was playing against a team struggling in 17th with their 2 best players missing. We also played the first half with 7 men in defence most of the time.
Ali Gold pointed out, rightly, that had Mourinho or Nuno played 343 and had the 4 stay back that much, that us fans would have been delirious with rage.

2nd half was a total change, we pushed forward and made Leeds do the defending.

In short, we don't want to play 6 or 7 at the back to make Dier and co look good. What we want, is the back 3 to look good enough that the middle 4 can attack without fear.

Peeps keep saying this but we were missing Romero & Skipp who have been amongst our best performers this season too....

Perspective/accuracy etc. 👍
 
Billy Bob mate Billy Bob mate - please confirm hereby in writing you believe the above three players are top 4 quality
That isn't what you said.

You can have non-top 4 quality players playing in a top 4 team.

Indeed, haven't they all finished top 4 with us in previous years?

I think we've a great chance of top 4 this season.
 
That isn't what you said.

You can have non-top 4 quality players playing in a top 4 team.

Indeed, haven't they all finished top 4 with us in previous years?

I think we've a great chance of top 4 this season.

You can. Man United won many titles with bottom half level players in their starting 11.
How many of them, and who they played along side was the key.
Playing Wes Brown 10 times season along side Rio Ferdinand or Nemanja Vidic is different to playing Dier and Sanchez all season long for example.
You look at Man United in the late 90's and early 00's and they had some pretty average players, but they didn't use them that often. Their proper players played regularly and the average ones here and there.

That's really what the likes of Winks, Dier and Davies should be if we want to challenge.
 
That isn't what you said.

You can have non-top 4 quality players playing in a top 4 team.

Indeed, haven't they all finished top 4 with us in previous years?

I think we've a great chance of top 4 this season.
Billy Bob mate Billy Bob mate - please confirm hereby in writing you believe the above three players are top 4 quality
 
Conte said he didn't want to come back then, wasn't ready.

Sure it could be PR bullshit but then what has changed in the interim? Did we offer him more money or promise him 100m in January? I guess the truth will out by 1st Feb next year.
In the summer and at the time we were after him things were very much up in the air with whether we would get fans back in the stadium. Can't give assurances if you don't know what your revenue stream will be. Now this has been resolved, so you can make that commitment. We shall see...
 
The last time we finished top 4, those players weren't central and I'd bet they didn't all play regularly at the same time.
Maybe...maybe not.

The question was are they top 4 quality and, based on the fact they've all finished in the top 4 numerous times, I will say they are.

Do they need better players around them to achieve it? Definitely.

I think top 4 is on this season though and the players named will play their part.
 
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