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No he makes more than he should …. Hence the criticism he receives…. A lot justified
The over the top forum stuff I just consider noise and pay it no mind
It makes no difference how their goal came about after his error … it took the whole spine out the game … evident by a pass then a missed shot… he was the last man defending (which he then got turned inside out)
Look I don’t hate dier. I think he’s got it in him to be a success but at least im my opinion he still makes too many mistakes
(Btw … ‘the trick is to reduce them to as few as possible’. What an insight …. Keep me abreast of any other gems)
Seriously. He fucked up.
Important think is he and the entire team didn't crumble
How about score more goals than the other side - we did that as well with Dier in the side - lest you forgot.
Nope watch it again, Bowen runs in behind him because he's had to cover the space that Sanchez has vacated, look:
7:00
If anything Davies is the one who should be tucking in more as Reguilon has their other attacker covered
We had this in the Villa match where people were blaming Dier because Romero stepped out the defensive line and Dier tried to cover him and you lot still tried so desperately to try and blame Dier.
This is what you call cognitive dissonance, you're unable to see really basic stuff due to your absolute bias, quit the agenda and debate objectively.
I think someone else said about errors and where they take place. I’d rather he made the mistake (which didn’t cost us in the end), learn from it and move on. As long as he learns from it he’s actually in a better place than had he made the error.
I’ve never seen a defender that doesn’t make mistakes that lead to goals, or keepers (see Allison at weekend) - it’s easy to pick on them (see Sanchez, Aurier, Toby at times, Davies, Trippier, Rose, ‘brain fart’ Walker).
Lmao. This is exactly what i think about you. You deliberately ignore reality so you can push your irrational bias on others. Please take your own advice. Otherwise why even waste my time. You are posting for the sake of it rather than anything to do with reality.
Sanchez did not magically transport into their half in a second. When their player passes the ball over the top. Dier and Davies are both in a great position to see whats going to happen. But Dier crawls back slowly and Bowen wins the footrace easily and gets the to ball first. If its all about Davies, then why has Dier even come up there to 'fill this gap' . Theres no other player he has to mark . Watch it again. If his job isnt to stop Bowen, why is he even there?
Yeah, I know
I don't have a pro Dier bias though where as you have an anti Dier bias so not sure that works for me, as I said before I've criticed his flaws in this very thread, that's called being objective where as I don't think you've ever said anything positive about Dier, that's the point mate - it's called an agenda.
lol Sorry you don't understand football - Bowen runs off Dier in behind him, unless you think that Dier has eyes in the back of his head? Davies is the one who needs to track his run but his body shape is wrong and is focused on the wrong player who is being covered by Reguilon. Dier comes over to close the space vacated by the RWB and RCB that's what you do as a defender, it's called covering then the other defenders are then meant to shift over.
This is basic football 101, I shouldn't have to explain this to anyone especially since they have such a strong opinion and act like they know what they're talking about.
It would help if you don't cut half my post off in your response because I kinda already explained it.
Oh wow what a great scientific discoverey. He comes to fill a gap but its not his job to block the player thats going to run through that gap. If hes not going to deal with that player, why does he even have to be there, he could be sitting on the bench and it would have the same effect.
Im done dealing with your nonsense for today. Peace out, troll someone else.
Oh wow what a great scientific discoverey. He comes to fill a gap but its not his job to block the player thats going to run through that gap. If hes not going to deal with that player, why does he even have to be there, he could be sitting on the bench and it would have the same effect.
Im done dealing with your nonsense for today. Peace out, troll someone else.
Sorry you're genuinely fucking clueless, pointless wasting my time debating with you.
Yeah we are done, have a nice xmas and all that though
There's a mathematical formula that may help in your inquiry....
1 x Ben Davies divided by 1 x Ballon D'or = minus 264 errors per season.
Top scientists (and
Igula
) have recently confirmed this will also work in the case of Eric Dier. 
Bangers you’ve got a seriously flawed style of posting …. You state the bleeding obvious and believe that the poster you are replying to is unaware of the referenced bleeding obvious.
In the extremely small sample size of the 2 recent posts you’ve imparted wisdom such as
‘all players even great ones make mistakes, the trick is to reduce them to as few as possible’
How about score more goals than the other side - we did that as well with Dier in the side - lest you forgot.
I mean seriously Captain Obvious if this is your level of debate please skip past my posts I’m not interested. You then manage to allow yourself to consider that i may have actually forgotten this. Or was that a deliberate captain obvious gem ?
In addition to that I’m unsure if you felt you wanted a last word because that’s all I can conclude with that reply as it has zero to do with the argument on my criticism of Eric Dier. I’d go so far to say other than mentioning his name that it is a complete non-sequitur
As mentioned I’ve been down this road with you before and it’s boring.
Hold on …. I’m not sure how we’ve reached the assumption that I and or others believe that even the finest defenders are exempt from making mistakes.
If we can move on from this and onto the number of mistakes and consider factors such as severity and mitigation etc then we’re good to go
Right … sure just as in every walk of life one method of learning is by making mistakes …… what we need to be aware of and debate is, are we approaching with his age , experience and technical ability the possibility that Eric dier is still making too many and giving the opposition cheap goals
Last year absolutely in my book. This year I think he’s been decent. He without doubt has the requisite tool set coupled with contes tuition to be a success story playing CB.
You know you don’t always have to learn the hard way… and this is perhaps it for me in that Eric seems determined to learn the hard way seemingly at every opportunity
But I did comment only the other day how I thought he’d been playing very well of late …. Maybe I jinxed him !?
You mention learning from mistakes …. But that one was a mistake that he shouldn’t be making, especially at this stage of his career
Like to add I think he’s got every chance of regaining his England spot under Conte
Thanks for clarifying - sounds like we’re in a similar boat on Dier. I’m slightly more positive in thinking he’s an intelligent player and learns quickly - the ball out from CB is something he seems to be working on so may be a ‘newish’ responsibility for him. However, yes - massive howler and thank goodness it didn’t end in affecting the result badly.
As an ex CB at a very minor level I like to have sympathy for other defenders as you shouldn’t ever be in one-on-ones too often and if you are someone else on the team has left you exposed.
Having said all that - yep - a big cock up but I like to think that won’t happen again…
Actually good point well made …. I think you’re right in saying conte has given him the responsibility of playing out from the back .
Maybe he’s got a few wrinkles to iron out where his decision making lies
The one thing I will say is I don’t believe Eric makes too many mistakes … I don’t know if he’s just unfortunate but when he does they nearly always seem to result in maximum punishment…. a goal against
He’s a good character and I hope he secures that position for us
This was money well spent, good recruitment bargin
Well done Erik, hopefully you're over your injury/illness problems, and benefitting from Antonio's coaching and belief in you.