How do you know what conte wants? I mean you are just throwing a random comment out here and acting like it’s proof.
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Amrabat has been probably the best dribbler from CM in série A for a couple of years. So that is a type of press resistance which could be valued.
He’s probably not the ideal player to come into CM but he is only coming on a short term loan with no obligation to buy. If the club wants a CM now then the options are limited, no?
Edit: he’s more use than lo Celso, alli and Ndombele which is the point, no?
Will he be more use to us than Ndombele, Lo Celso and Alli have been?
I think he could be. And the fact he costs zero is a plus right?
Who do you think we should be targeting to help us in the next 6 months?
not even useful for fiorentina so i doubt it
Fiorentina have played 22 league games.
He’s been at AFCON for 4 games.
He was injured for 4 games.
He’s played 11/14 games he was available for selection.
I mean, Ndombele and Lo Celso have much, much more than Amarbat does. But Conte is not the first manager to find those to be unreliable players. It’s a shitty situation.
(I don’t think Dele is a midfielder at all, but Nuno kinda-sorta got half a tune out of him in a CM3 so who knows)
Again common sense??
Yeah I agree it’s a really terrible situation. Imagine the difference if lo Celso and Ndombele were 80% the players we’d hope they’d be. It sucks.
But here we are and we have to face this situation. Getting Ndombele out would be great. I say that with a heavy heart.
He's started 1, played 215 minutes in the league this season...
If players know all you can do is dribble it isn't hard to defend against especially when he is playing in a MF with no options for him to pass to if he gets in trouble. We also have that skill in players already so not sure it adds much.
I don't think they are that limited. Eriksen and Coutinho are two examples of CM available that add a lot of the things we don't have. I am sure there are others out there as well.
Debatable that he is, but no that is not the goal. The goal is to compete with the City's, United's, Chelsea's, Liverpool's and this is another player we are looking to bring to our side that is nowhere close to their level.
I don’t think the goal for the next 6 months is to compete with those clubs. Next year maybe but for now we need to guarantee top 4. There’s a fair chance he will contribute more than any of those 3 players under conte. Sure he probably doesn’t have the same ceiling but all three players have seriously underwhelmed and offered less than Winks, Hojbjerg and Skipp have this season. Alli has had one good game (Liverpool), Lo Celso has had no good games and Ndombele… wow.
I don’t know if Coutinho and Eriksen are the solution. Perhaps they are but they’re very different players to what’s expected in CM and that seems to be what Conte wants. Diaz is the better comparison with Coutinho (not even a CM lol) and Eriksen.
If Betancur and Guimaraes move into the league those are two players with precisely the profile we’re looking for for the next six months and beyond.
Going to two clubs that will be better than us very rapidly.
The goal should always be to compete with those teams. Otherwise what happens is that next summer we have too much to do to get everything done, then next January it is too hard to get deals done in January, then the following summer well they have improved too so we have more to do to catch up.
It is a never ending cycle if we don't start making moves to bring in quality over warm bodies.
And Eriksen and Coutinho definitely help out with their goals from midfield, passing and free kicks. We should be looking for better than them, but compared to Amrabat they help the team in areas we are lacking.
I didn’t know that. Underwhelming season.
Let’s see how he does for 4 months. I get that he’s not a player who’s going to make fans dream about success but he might be a competent stock gap with very low downside. I’m not going to have strong feelings about this.
Fucking hell...
I always thought the accusations of paid Enic bots and club propaganda accounts were wild conspiracy theories, but this has given me pause for thought...
Hey, I hear Amrabat was excluded from the Ballon D'Or voting as it wouldn't have been fair on the rest of world football if he were in the competition...
Exactly, people can claim January is difficult and nobody wants to sell their decent players as much as they like, but when you see a club in the bottom 3 and a mid-table club in Birmingham signing players that would walk into our team then it becomes impossible to buy that as an excuse.
So what's the next one, can't compete with Villa and Newcastle??
Pathetic.
If he's a player Conte wants then I hope we get him. The system and players who fit a role are more important for a great coach than a top notch player who won't do those things. It's definitely underwhelming but guys like this can be elevated by good coaches and played in the right way. He doesn't fill the absolute need of what we want but we definitely need more CM's and competition can elevate the other players in our squad.
That’s a fact. We can disagree on judgements but we can’t disagree on facts.Fucking hell...
I always thought the accusations of paid Enic bots and club propaganda accounts were wild conspiracy theories, but this has given me pause for thought...
Hey, I hear Amrabat was excluded from the Ballon D'Or voting as it wouldn't have been fair on the rest of world football if he were in the competition...