Transfers January 2022 - Transfer Window

[Deuterz]

Well aren’t you a cheerful cunt? Are you always this optimistic or did we catch you on a good day?

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And what if he's right? People don't have to be optimistic about signings if they genuinely don't agree with them and don't view the players as upgrades. I guarantee there are Everton fans telling the Alli doubters the same kind of shit right now.

I dunno why there's this expectation that fans should fall in line and praise every signing. There are legitimate doubts as to whether these players improve us. Of course we all want and hope for the best but this whole 'must be excited over signing two underwhelming players!' rhetoric is getting tiresome. People are allowed opinions.

 

[Maureen]

I wonder if that's how Conte sees it?

We don't need a Pirlo or a Rivaldo (maybe that's a projection?), we need a central defender who can actually mark players and a RWB who can actually cross.

I wonder if that's how Conte sees it?

We don't need a Pirlo or a Rivaldo (maybe that's a projection?), we need a central defender who can actually mark players and a RWB who can actually cross.

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RWB who cross would help for sure. Thing is we generally have no one in the box to head the ball. This is the galaxy of this system and reliance on WBs. Think it was the Watford gane granted royal was terrible but they had 3 big CBs in the pen box most of the time and had no one to put jump them. Kane has basically given up challenging for header.

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[Thecleverbit]

And what if he's right? People don't have to be optimistic about signings if they genuinely don't agree with them and don't view the players as upgrades. I guarantee there are Everton fans telling the Alli doubters the same kind of shit right now.

I dunno why there's this expectation that fans should fall in line and praise every signing. There are legitimate doubts as to whether these players improve us. Of course we all want and hope for the best but this whole 'must be excited over signing two underwhelming players!' rhetoric is getting tiresome. People are allowed opinions.

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Deuterz when you were born, did you get a chance to prove you could breathe before being tossed in the morgue?

When you got to school, could you read by the end of your first hour there?

Do you not think it’s fair to give new signings a chance to at least play once or maybe 10 times before you rubbish them?

Get a grip!

 

[Maureen]

And what if he's right? People don't have to be optimistic about signings if they genuinely don't agree with them and don't view the players as upgrades. I guarantee there are Everton fans telling the Alli doubters the same kind of shit right now.

I dunno why there's this expectation that fans should fall in line and praise every signing. There are legitimate doubts as to whether these players improve us. Of course we all want and hope for the best but this whole 'must be excited over signing two underwhelming players!' rhetoric is getting tiresome. People are allowed opinions.

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100% spot on

 

[Thecleverbit]

100% spot on

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99.9% bullshit

 

[Deuterz]

Deuterz when you were born, did you get a chance to prove you could breathe before being tossed in the morgue?

When you got to school, could you read by the end of your first hour there?

Do you not think it’s fair to give new signings a chance to at least play once or maybe 10 times before you rubbish them?

Get a grip!

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Who said anything about not giving them a chance? They're Spurs players so I'm fully behind them. That doesn't translate to not having doubts, or not criticising our transfer strategy. I'm behind both players and won't be shitting on them or booing them. That doesn't mean I suddenly have to pretend they've morphed in to something they're not.

And I'm perfectly calm so feel no need to get a grip, thanks. I think it's you and some of the other vigilant anti any kind of negative thoughts brigade who need to chill out. They're underwhelming signings but football is unpredictable and they may suddenly blossom, who knows? The problem here though is your analogy is terrible. These players have failed/disappointed for years in a lesser league for a better team. That's why people have formed opinions.

 

[SouthCoastSpur]

And what if he's right? People don't have to be optimistic about signings if they genuinely don't agree with them and don't view the players as upgrades. I guarantee there are Everton fans telling the Alli doubters the same kind of shit right now.

I dunno why there's this expectation that fans should fall in line and praise every signing. There are legitimate doubts as to whether these players improve us. Of course we all want and hope for the best but this whole 'must be excited over signing two underwhelming players!' rhetoric is getting tiresome. People are allowed opinions.

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I understand those doubts as these 2 players are as yet unproven in this league. But whilst there shouldn't be an expectation that fans should fall in line to praise the signings, there also should be an expectation to give them a chance.

You've got to expect that these 2 were signings Conte was happy with given who we could get this window (and also he wanted Dejan whist at Inter) and that he thinks he can work with them and improve the team with them.

I think the rhetoric that we should all be happy gets spouted as there is also so much rhetoric from the other camp saying how poor the window was and how we shouldn't be happy. As you said everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm very much in the wait and see how the rest of the season goes with these 2 players and see what happens in the summer.

 

[Igula]

Bit who did he want? Seems like the two juve lads he may have wanted.

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It is hard to imagine that Conte was fine going ahead with Emerson/Doherty at RWB knowing how key WB's to his system especially with our MF being as awful as it is.

It is also hard to imagine Conte, or any manager, thinks going with no back-up at Striker (I do not think Kulusevski is a reasonable back-up option nor is Bergwijn) is a smart way to go.

There are also many reports that Conte wanted a CB which makes sense as Davies is crap and we have no options if he gets hurt.

It may be that given the financial restrictions that Levy put on him bringing in these two players were enough for Conte to stomach but hard to imagine his plan was bring in two largely redundant players that do little to address our biggest needs.

 

[Jaynola]

I swear we could've signed Neuer, Marquinhos, Bonucci, Hakimi, Kimmich, Barella, Mbappe, Lautaro and Lewandowski...and some on here would still call it an underwhelming window and say it's Levy's fault for being too tight.

You know who I'm talking about!

Here are some home truths:

- January has always been a tough window to do business in

- We don't have City or Liverpool's money, nor do we have their aura

- Diaz preferred Liverpool and Traore preferred Barca

- We got rid of some expensive deadwood that was bringing nothing positive to the table

- Kulusevski is a good, experienced young player who deserves a chance to show what he can do

- Same goes for Bentancur. Played for Boca then for Juve for several seasons, has CL pedigree and plays for a very good national side

- Woolwich, Utd and West Ham did fuck all business. If one thing, they weakened

- Conte is a fucking great manager, he's forgotten more stuff about managing that we will ever know in a zillion years

- Our squad ain't perfect but we still have plenty quality players and some who'll always give 100%: Hugo, Dier, Big Ben, Hoj, Sonny, Lucas, Kane...

- A fan supports his team for better or worse

That's more than enough reasons to feel optimistic about our Top 4 + FA Cup push, come on! It's a time to support the lads, to bring them some positive vibes, and constant negativity is actually playing against the club.

COYS. Peace out x

Edit: I've had a nice Belgian beer and some plants since I first posted it, so I've calmed down and toned it down a notch as a result. You're welcome

 

[Airfixx]

Who said anything about not giving them a chance? They're Spurs players so I'm fully behind them. That doesn't translate to not having doubts, or not criticising our transfer strategy. I'm behind both players and won't be shitting on them or booing them. That doesn't mean I suddenly have to pretend they've morphed in to something they're not.

And I'm perfectly calm so feel no need to get a grip, thanks. I think it's you and some of the other vigilant anti any kind of negative thoughts brigade who need to chill out. They're underwhelming signings but football is unpredictable and they may suddenly blossom, who knows? The problem here though is your analogy is terrible. These players have failed/disappointed for years in a lesser league for a better team. That's why people have formed opinions.

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TBF there's being "underwhelmed" and then there's numptys declaring that they "couldn't be more depressed".......

Then we have the guy that you're (inadvertently?) defending; who in consecutive posts said Conte wanted them but we shouldn't have bought them.

And lastly, Gazzapen spewing straight made-up bollocks and then playing the "You luv Levy" card to people with with ENIC-out avatars....

......All utter bilge that deserves to be ridiculed at best.

 

[Tottenham Massive]

I swear we could've signed Neuer, Marquinhos, Bonucci, Hakimi, Kimmich, Barella, Mbappe, Lautaro and Lewandowski...and some on here would still call it an underwhelming window and say it's Levy's fault for being too tight.

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I'd have called that a reasonable window tbh

 

[Deuterz]

I understand those doubts as these 2 players are as yet unproven in this league. But whilst there shouldn't be an expectation that fans should fall in line to praise the signings, there also should be an expectation to give them a chance.

You've got to expect that these 2 were signings Conte was happy with given who we could get this window (and also he wanted Dejan whist at Inter) and that he thinks he can work with them and improve the team with them.

I think the rhetoric that we should all be happy gets spouted as there is also so much rhetoric from the other camp saying how poor the window was and how we shouldn't be happy. As you said everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm very much in the wait and see how the rest of the season goes with these 2 players and see what happens in the summer.

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They should absolutely be given a chance. They're Spurs players now. But I don't think giving them a chance translates to applauding the work we've done in this window. Some people seem to treat any questioning of the signings we've made as outrageous, and then they start the shite 'oh we could sign Messi and you wouldn't be happy!' banter which makes zero fucking sense.

I'm fine with the signings, happy to give them a chance. But I see a lot of people stretching logic to hype them up, or desperately attacking the fans who don't think this should be applauded. I saw similar shit posted about Emerson and people who had doubts over him.

Wait and see camp is totally fair and where most people should be. After all football fans are always going to get plenty of shit wrong.

 

[Airfixx]

Yeah, I get that. There's hyperbole and boring narratives from both sides. My stance is somewhat underwhelmed but hopeful that I'm wrong about what I've thought about these players in the past. I've been wrong about plenty in the past, so there's always a very good chance.

But the whole 'I'm a better fan than you because I think these guys are going to be amazing' shite is utter garbage and deserves to be called out as such. You don't have to pretend Bentancur is suddenly world class to be a good fan.

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Nope. Agreed; you don't.......

 

[Dr Rocktopus]

We all want what's best for the club.

Seems like the gritty realist gang vs the higher expectations outfit at times.

Could be a lot worse, but it could definitely be a lot better. I don't think that's a controversial statement for anyone on here.

 

[Igula]

I swear we could've signed Neuer, Marquinhos, Bonucci, Hakimi, Kimmich, Barella, Mbappe, Lautaro and Lewandowski...and some on here would still call it an underwhelming window and say it's Levy's fault for being too tight.

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What an absolute load of shit.

I have yet to see a single post come close to demanding a ton, or even one, world class player.

People have made posts explaining why the window has been poor or underwhelming using logic, facts and reason and yet the response is a pathetic "sorry we didn't sign 11 Messi's."

Fuck me!

Here are some home truths for you depressing muppets:

- January has always been a tough window to do business in

- We don't have City or Liverpool's money, nor do we have their aura

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This is a weak excuse we have seen many clubs add important pieces this window and in others.

We don't need City's money and why do Liverpool have more money than us outside of them getting CL money from being run properly. They aren't run by owners funding their club with Oil money.

- Diaz preferred Liverpool and Traore preferred Barca

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Those are the only 2 options we had at those positions or with that money?

- We got rid of some expensive deadwood that was bringing nothing positive to the table

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We moved one guy out on a permanent and two out on loans and then didn't use the money saved on wages to bring anyone in.

- Kulusevski is a good, experienced young player who deserves a chance to show what he can do

- Same goes for Bentancur. Played for Boca then for Juve for several seasons, has CL pedigree and plays for a very good national side

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Great for them. Still doesn't change that there are legit questions about them overall, what they bring to the team and if they address our issues.

- Woolwich, Utd and West Ham did fuck all business. If one thing, they weakened

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Who cares? I support Spurs I also don't just look at this as a 6 month thing. We need to strengthen our team for the long haul not just until the end of the season. As you will hear a lot this summer we have too many holes to fix in one window, we should have started now.

- Conte is a fucking great manager, he's forgotten more stuff about managing that you will ever know in a zillion years

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Awesome so why not support him and give him a quality team rather than giving him shit and hoping he can use that magic to drag us to 4th?

- Our squad ain't perfect but we still have plenty quality players and some who'll always give 100%: Hugo, Dier, Big Ben, Hoj, Sonny, Lucas, Kane...

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Not much quality in that list and a whole bunch of shit in Dier, Lucas, Hjobjerg and Davies.

- A real fan supports his team for better or worse

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Who is not supporting their team? Blind loyalty is not support.

That's more than enough reasons to feel optimistic about our Top 4 + FA Cup push, if you've got even half a brain and common sense. So quit your friggin incessant whining or go do it elsewhere. It's a time to support the lads, to bring them some positive vibes, and your constant negativity is actually playing against the club you're claiming to support.

COYS. Peace out x

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BS there is more than enough reasons, there is an equal number of reasons to see the major issues we have with our top 4 and FA Cup run.

No need to go somewhere else just because you are a baby and can't handle that everyone doesn't waive poms poms and pretend everything is great.

 

[Tottenham Massive]

Yeah, I get that. There's hyperbole and boring narratives from both sides.

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Somewhat more from one side than the other though, my friend.
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There are those of us who think our great club could and should always aspire to be the best. We certainly have the resources to do so much more.

And those with the little old Tottenham fighting above its weight mentality who think we should be grateful for every crumb or morsal ENIC feed to the peasants.
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[Jaynola]

God what a pile of utter shite. Comparing signing two benched players from a Juventus side happy to get rid to signing genuine stars. Insulting fans who have legitimate doubts which are regularly proven correct. Going on about our FA cup chances as if we didn't get absolutely embarrassed by Chelsea in both legs of the carabao cup.

You're not a better fan, or a real fan just because you're ultra optimistic about every aspect of the club. Stop sniffing your own farts and get over yourself. Sugarcoating fucking everything to a ludicrous degree is just tiresome.

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Well, first, get your facts right. Cause I sure ain't optimistic about everything the club is doing and I've given plenty of stick to Levy and Fabio for the way they go about their business...including this TW.

I've also never been shy about giving the players stick when I thought that they didn't give enough for the shirt.

And by mentioning all them top players, I wasn't comparing them to our two new acquisitions. I just used that to make a point that some people on here would still find a reason to complain and be negative even if we'd had a stronger window.

You obviously feel personally targeted by my post, but you weren't even in the top 5 people I was aiming it at.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, no matter how erroneous, but comes a time when you've had your moan and it's time to let it go. Spurs is nowhere near a perfect club and there's much to improve, but at some point if you truly love the club, it's like with your life partner, you just take it as it is, with its pluses and minuses.

If you're never happy with the club and it's making you that depressed and angry, then maybe you need to take a step back.

I'm all for different people different opinions, but when there's one particular guy on here who's been told a zillion times by a zillion different users that Diaz was never ever gonna pick us over Liverpool, and yet he keeps going on and on about it, and he's the rude & aggressive one, I'm sorry but at some stage it does get on my nerves.

Anyway, no life or death situation here. And we're all Spurs fans in the end.

You have a good one.

 

[Igula]

And by mentioning all them top players, I wasn't comparing them to our two new acquisitions. I just used that to make a point that some people on here would still find a reason to complain and be negative even if we'd had a stronger window.

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Who?

Call them out.

Because that vague general statement that isn't true of anyone does no good but make a false statement trying to paint a bunch of posters with a statement or opinion they never had.

 

[Jaynola]

I'd have called that a reasonable window tbh

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Yeah fucking Levy, he could've got Haaland, Vlahovic and Pedro on top if he wasn't such a tight bastard.

I give it a 2/10.

Edit: Pedri, not Pedro who's gotta be about 147 years old now

 

[Deuterz]

And by mentioning all them top players, I wasn't comparing them to our two new acquisitions. I just used that to make a point that some people on here would still find a reason to complain and be negative even if we'd had a stronger window.

You obviously feel personally targeted by my post, but you weren't even in the top 5 people I was aiming it at.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, no matter how erroneous, but comes a time when you've had your moan and it's time to let it go. Spurs is nowhere near a perfect club and there's much to improve, but at some point if you truly love the club, it's like with your life partner, you just take it as it is, with its pluses and minuses.

If you're never happy with the club and it's making you that depressed and angry, then maybe you need to take a step back.

I'm all for different people different opinions, but when there's one particular guy on here who's been told a zillion times by a zillion different users that Diaz was never ever gonna pick us over Liverpool, and yet he keeps going on and on about it, and he's the rude & aggressive one, I'm sorry but at some stage it does get on my nerves.

Anyway, no life or death situation here. And we're all Spurs fans in the end.

You have a good one.

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I'm honestly not sure they would. I remember fans being pretty happy with the big Ndombele/GLC window. Had we brought in Diaz, Traore and Bentancur I imagine the vast majority on here would be saying it was a positive window. The one we actually got has plenty of room to be criticised without sound like a greedy/entitled fan.

How about top 10?!

I'll support Spurs regardless, even if we were sat in league one. But I want us to do the best we can. Don't feel depressed/angry in the slightest, simply giving what I feel is a fair, reasoned opinion on where we're realistically at by signing these players. Same with the people who feel differently to me and think they're gonna be great.

I get that. The Diaz signing I never really allowed myself to get excited for anyway (always felt a roadblock was ahead..) and the truth is once Liverpool came in we were always going to be second best. I'm comfortable with that fact.

You too.