• The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...

    Get involved!

Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports

Nice to think that Conte shot down those who feel we need some sort of "creative midfielder".

You wouldn't have guessed we'd scored the most goals since Conte took over would you?
 
There should be a post fixed at the top of every page of this thread

There is no place for an "attacking" or "creative" midfielder in this system.

Just repeat it over and over. A player like Maddison, who plays a key role at Leicester and wants to go to the world cup, isn't gonna come and sit on our bench to get 10 minutes here and there when either the 343 isn't working or we 4-0 up and can give players minutes.
What about a creative attacking midfielder built and oiled like Traore?
 


Ignore the FM shit, but the actual stats sound promising. Lots of chances created from open play, used to a 5 at the back system & offers a goal threat from outside the box. Maybe has fallen out of favour a bit at Atalanta but we've seen how Conte can utilise players who are out of favour elsewhere, so not too worried about that anymore.

Seems like it would be interesting.


He has not "fallen out of favor".
He has never been a starter in top 5 leagues in Europe.
Not even for 1 season. He has been rotation / bench option throughout his time in Atalanta and before that he played in Belgium.
 
His Serie A stats in 20/21 were 8G 12A, but last season dipped to 6G 4A.

Not to be a pessimist, but if a player gets less productive in their late 20s that could be a sign of decline.
Different from a youngster like Kulu, you'd expect younger players to be up and down.

You have to factor in how the club was doing as well.

Atalanta goals scored in RM 3 seasons -
2021/22 - 65 ; RM contributions 11 ; 1600 minutes ; goal involvement 17% ; G/A for every 145 min
2020/21 - 90 ; 20 contributions ; 1880 minutes ; 22% ; G/A for 94 min
2019/20 - 98 ; 13 contributions; 1500 minutes ; 13,2% ; G/A for 115 min

So the difference is not so stark, but is still there.
 
Last edited:
Can’t moura do that ? And if the answer is deemed to be no then we should have sold him no matter how much he wants to run his contract down snd semi retire

We currently got 5 forwards for 3 places is that not sufficient?

Why have we got to go out and buy some old dog to take up a foreign slot and burn wages ?

Not only that.

We also have Perisic who could very well play as LW.

And if we went into market to buy a midfielder with passing ability, we could also use 3 midfielders + 2 attackers setup.
Would help not to have our CM not be overcrowded.
P.S - fuck off, before everyone come moaning about 3-4-3 being Conte system, then - fuck off, he had room and time for Eriksen in his Inter time + if he likes it or not, there has to be at least some level of flexibility to do well in EPL :D .
 
There should be a post fixed at the top of every page of this thread

There is no place for an "attacking" or "creative" midfielder in this system.

Just repeat it over and over. A player like Maddison, who plays a key role at Leicester and wants to go to the world cup, isn't gonna come and sit on our bench to get 10 minutes here and there when either the 343 isn't working or we 4-0 up and can give players minutes.

Yet, Eriksen played A LOT under Conte in Serie A.

But sure.
Let's just force eyes closed and repeat mantra - "nothing can change. only current double-pivot. nothing else, than that, EVER" :contefacepalm2: :contefacepalm2:
 
I'd guess if we need an AM (creative) player to accommodate a system change then Kulusevski could likely do that job.
This is the thing - Kane and Kulu are both more than capable of moving during a game to switch between 352 and 343
If we sign a player who's sole position is to roam around the middle pinging passes about, you lose that in game adaptability. So we then go from a front 3 to a 2 and then we're over stacked or the new player who only plays cameo roles. Neither is a good outcome.
 
This is the thing - Kane and Kulu are both more than capable of moving during a game to switch between 352 and 343
If we sign a player who's sole position is to roam around the middle pinging passes about, you lose that in game adaptability. So we then go from a front 3 to a 2 and then we're over stacked or the new player who only plays cameo roles. Neither is a good outcome.
Seems to me that if Conte really is after an AM player we'd have gone all out to sign Erikson.
 
Thankfully the Dan James rumours sound nothing more than just that after reading the article. We are no way near bidding for him.

Does feel like it’s the quiet before the storm a bit. Tanganga and Gil close must mean two in. Hopefully of better quality or more experience. It’s gonna be interesting to see who we go for. Lots of smoke and mirrors in the build up I suspect like James.
Agree. If we sell Reggie and loan Gil and Sarr then that still only leaves us 1 foreign trained place left if we want to register everyone for Europe. Home grown centre back choices a bit threadbare, can really only think of Chalobah (Chelsea, forget it), Guehi (cant see them selling) and maybe Kilman. Thats why if we're not going for Maddison i'm starting to think Zaha might make some sense. Olise would be better but cost a bomb. I suppose we could always buy 2 foreign trained and just leave someone out of the CL squad (Doc, Emerson, Moura?) but always feel thats a bit crap.
 
Seems to me that if Conte really is after an AM player we'd have gone all out to sign Erikson.
Absolute no brainer. Free. KNows the coach. Knows the club. Knows the players he'd be teeing up.
We probably told him that we're interested but 343 is the main system so he's gonna be backup. And that's always gonna be the problem trying to sign a position specific player.
 
ffs stop it, you're embarrassing yourself.
Premier League Football GIF by Wolves


Airfixx Airfixx The Absolute GOAT The Absolute GOAT he would be in the spurs wrastling squad though
 
Back
Top