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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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Matt1882 said:
What debt? There is no debt.
They're as wealthy as any team that's won everything, repeatedly for the last 20 years. With a wealthy owner thrown into the mix.
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From the FT:

"Todd Boehly-led consortium looks to reshape soccer club after end of Roman Abramovich era. Chelsea's new owners are raising roughly UK£800 million (US$957 million) of debt as they bid to reshape the running of the English soccer giants"

If you can't understand this i don't really care, but Boehly owes money, and not for a bar tab.
 
TheGhost said:
Been through this before with almost the same list.

Porro isn’t available. He’s literally just signed for Sporting.

Dest was supposed to be the player that made Emerson superfluous at Barca. The fact that they have made him available this year after bringing in a 900 year old Dani Alves says everything about him.
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Okay then.

What about Maelhe? Or Molina? Or Dumfries? Or Montiel?

My original response was to a post asking “what RWBs were available better than what we currently have.”

The list is endless. It’s a failing of the club that we haven’t addressed such a glaring weakness in the squad.
 
Starks said:
No you're right

£18,000,000 for someone who's been involved in 46 goals in his last 54 league starts is faaaaaaar too much.

How silly of me. I forgot all of the better options we've been linked with at a cheaper rate.
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For side who plays kung-ho football, scoring 98 + 90 goals in successive seasons.
Also - these "last 54 starts" are in fact his ONLY starts in his career in top league.

Way to avoid any fucking kind of context...

Also he is 29 and 1 year left on his contract. If we sign him and keep for 3 years, his resale value is maybe 5 mil EUR. Very few teams in Europe can pay 18+ million, so demand is low.
I absolutely agree that we should not pay penny over 10 mil.
 
Starks said:
Not really a fan of Isak, tbh.

Certainly not for the price quoted. Stinks of Newcastle just buying for the sake of it. Genuinely not even sure he's better than Callum Wilson which means it's alot of money for a back up.

Better than Chris Wood, I guess. And Wilsons injury record is a little iffy
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He can play RW no? I assumed he's an Almiron upgrade (I don't watch a lot of La Liga, I admit).
 
Starks said:
He started their last game. And scored. Against the Champions too.

Stop judging a players ability on other teams and coaches decisions and instead either watch him or look at his output when given a chance

If all you did was base your decisions on other teams and coaches decisions we wouldn't have signed Kulusevski or Bentancur.
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Both being A LOT younger AND having seasons of being undisputed starters in the same league.
Malinovski hasn't ever been a starter in top league in his career.
 
Starks said:
How on earth does any of that matter?!?

Did he shag your sister or something ?
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Are you seriously asking why context matter while talking about facts? For real?

Well, if this is honest question then I can explain -
1) Having 46 goal involvements IS so much easier if you play for a team where attacking players don't have to work for defensive purposes at all. Also it is much easier to have your hand in goals if your team scores 2.6 goals per game compared to more modest numbers. It means that he would not be replicating these numbers in any other teams.
2) Phrasing your fact in form of "last 54 starts" sounds like there have been starts before that. While I pointed out that there isn't. His track record in top league is rather short. And this too matters - more data and information you have, more representative it is. And Malinovski, despite his age, is not very experienced in top levels of European football.

Hope that cleared up some stuff.

For the record - I would be okay signing him if that is what Conte and Paratici decide. But Malinovski specifically would not be my firs choice. I do not think he would be enough of an upgrade on Moura.
Plus as I mentioned in the other post - his age and contract he expects will mean that money we put on purchase + salaries will be almost 100% cost cause he would have next to no value as an asset after contract.
 
TheGhost said:
Incremental improvement.
They’re basically copying City who didn’t become brilliant overnight. They’ll go through some transitional players who improve the team considerably ( probably putting them on the cusp of Europe or maybe put them in a secondary competition), giving them credibility before they can attract the Silva snd Rodris of the world. Bruno G and Isak are exactly the profile that will improve them and give them credibility as a destination

Similarly, Howe is a transitional coach before they can grab a major name.
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Talking of "transitional" players - ie big money signings who aren't actually good enough for a top team - thank fuck it was Howe who paid silly money & salary for Chris Wood .

Mourinho allegedly wanted him for us, and the geordies are already binning him.

Richarlison or Chris Wood?

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bonaspur23 said:
First off, I’m not saying Traore is a good option or anything. But to measure it based on successful % of crosses is a bit flawed. Having watched Traore play, I can confidently say the majority of those crosses are coming from 1v1 (or 1v2) opportunities. He has to take a man on to get a cross off because he doesn’t play for a side that creates space for him.

Compare that to Royal who basically only crosses the ball when he’s unmarked.

Naturally, it is far easier to get a cross off when a defender is not 2 feet away trying to block it and taking away 70% of the crossing angle.

Traore’s strength is not his crossing technique but the attention he demands from the opposition. He almost always draws at least 2 defenders… which means one less defender somewhere on the pitch. All he has to do is float a ball to the far post and now there’s a numerical advantage in the box.
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This is the only thing that he excels at:

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