I still can't figure how so much talent can be reduced to so much mediocracy.
Whatever Poch got out of him, has been rinsed out under Nuno, Jose and seen through by Conte.
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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.
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I still can't figure how so much talent can be reduced to so much mediocracy.
Whatever Poch got out of him, has been rinsed out under Nuno, Jose and seen through by Conte.
Pretty sure it all comes down to effort.
Need to work harder to stay in shape as you get older.
No secret that Dele didn't train hard.
You can only rely on natural ability for so long.
Good article on Gil, well worth read for anyone who has not read it.
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Adama Traore, Daniel James and the strange case of Bryan Gil's Tottenham future
Spurs transfer news: Young Spaniard Bryan Gil looks set to return to Spain once again with a second loan move to Valencia before the summer transfer window shuts
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The key word is available.
I’m not going through every player that you’ve listed but let’s take Dumfries for example. Chelsea wanted him. Man United were linked with him this window as they’re desperate to move on from Wan Bissaka. So links to two wealthy clubs — one in CL — and Inter supposedly in need of cash. Yet, nothing materializes.
Are we to assume that United suddenly don’t see him as an upgrade on Wan Bissaka?
Just because a player represents an upgrade, it doesn’t mean he’s for sale. Same as us chasing Bastoni .
As the window closes, there’s even less chance of a team losing a key player as they need to be replaced.
I quite like wood
I am asking why the amount of games he's started in the top flight matters in this situation? He's 29 years old, which means he provides us experience of top flight and Champions League football. He wouldn't be brought in to be a starter because we don't start with an attacking midfielder. And he's cheaper than anyone else who has provided the same level of quality. Let's be precise, at Atalanta since he's signed for them, in all competitions. His stats stand at:
69 starts of a possible 131.
30 goals
27 assists
Over the last 3 seasons (and inc the 2 games this season), Atalanta have played:
153 games
Scored 321 goals
That's actually an average of 2.09 goals a game.
Here's our record under Conte
39 games played
79 goals scored
Which comes to about 2.02 goals a game.
So not much difference then. Malinovskyi will be going from a team where he's not a guaranteed starter that works ridiculously hard and scores lots of goals to a team that.... works hard and scores lots of goals, whilst not being a guaranteed starter.
Why couldn't he replicate the same?
That's on however you want to read it.
He's 29 years old. A full international with nearly 50 caps for his country. . Has started Champions League games, trusted to start and score in an Italian Cup final, made over 100 appearances in Serie A.
I am sure he'll be fine playing in the Premier League if it came to it. A lot worse players have done well for themselves.
Don't get me wrong, Malinovskyi wouldn't be my first choice either. But for a team that specifically don't play with an attacking midfielder but is potentially looking at one who's got experience, happy to be on the bench but come on and potentially start games here and there whilst producing the goods as proven at his previous club, then I'd be over the moon with signing him.
I doubt we'd find anyone better than him for the same price (or cheaper) for what he would end up bringing to the team. You'd have to move upwards of £30,000,000 to find someone who could probably provide the same output he has done from one of the top 5 leagues, whilst also being happy with the demands of Conte as well as happy at being a bit part player behind Son, Kane and Kulusrvski.
That is completely different from your earlier statement where you conflated the 4.25 billion purchase price with Chelsea's debt making it sound like Chelsea were saddled with a 4.25 billion debt. But they're not doing anything different that Levy has done with us and the payments will be spread out over a lot of years, plus I would guess most of this will go into infrastructure (new stadium?) rather than player purchases or salaries, which the club can afford with its current turnover.
Why, we ain't playing him so presumably don't think he is that good.
I am sure someone will come in for him..
No mate your miles off here … I (we all) get your wished for policy that the club adopt …. It’s cool it’s an opinion and there’s an argument we can be overly niggardlyBe heartbreaking wouldn't it. How on earth would we cope
Honestly. Our fans :contefacepalm2:
But this is nothing to do with that or at least it shouldn’t be, because if ignoring value to spend for the sake of it is your motivation then that’s the definition of a mug
Maybe I gave you too much credit
(And Dont fuckin ‘honestly our fans’ me …. I don’t think he’s worth 18m quid)
I imagine it's more on Reguilons end as to why he's still here.
Reports were he was the one who rejected a move to Brighton.
To me we have had a good transfer window unless people genuinely believed we were going to get upgrades across the park.
I think how good will probably depend on the next few days and how good the players we have acquired prove to be.
There is no doubt the money gets spread across more teams than it used to be and it's either creating distortion or there are more good players out there than one would believe . The former me thinks.
I think how good will probably depend on the next few days and how good the players we have acquired prove to be.
There is no doubt the money gets spread across more teams than it used to be and it's either creating distortion or there are more good players out there than one would believe . The former me thinks.
Couldn’t agree more Archie …. But does this guy fall into that must have category … course he doesn’t…. If so we’d have been negotiating 6 weeks ago
I’m sad that we sign young talent and let them fester. Nothing more exciting for me than seeing a young player develop through well-placed minutes in the first team.Good article on Gil, well worth read for anyone who has not read it.
Adama Traore, Daniel James and the strange case of Bryan Gil's Tottenham future
Spurs transfer news: Young Spaniard Bryan Gil looks set to return to Spain once again with a second loan move to Valencia before the summer transfer window shuts
Unless they're playing 2 up top then logically he replaces Wilson.
Sorry I didn’t realise a whole football forum had never heard of or suggested this most creative player in Europe
How did he slip under the radar
Be interesting to see where this unheralded maestro ends up
Bayerns my bet
Bayern aren't "DeSpArAtE fOr A cReAtIvE mIdFiElDeR" so doubt it bud.
Just because you're very creative doesn't meanall top clubs will be after you. Other factors actually come into play. What top clubs are after Dmitri Payet for example? He's constantly been one of the most creative players in Europe for years now.
I didn't think it was that hard to understand.
Still he’s that good … they’ll shift someone on
He’s one of the most creative midfielders in Europe
Atlanta have just gone off super creative midfielders … fickle fuckers they are over there
But why?
Bayern scored 131 goals last season, have scored 20 goals in 4 games this season and have one of the greatest creators of his generation playing for them.
This isn't FIFA.
The stats are there for you to see. Go and find me 10 players in the top 5 leagues who play creative midfield who have been involved in more goals than Malinovskyi has and would be available for as cheap as he would be for us.