Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

[James78]

Where the hell has the Ziyech talk come from?

Hakim Ziyech tipped to favour Tottenham move amid Chelsea exit and Ajax claim

Hakim Ziyech has been linked with a move to both Tottenham and Ajax - as well as Manchester United - as his time at Chelsea looks to be coming to an end

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Do the media have no memory of THFC Vs CFC relations in the transfer window?
I'd say there's more chance of Spurs and Arse doing business

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Maybe the new American owner will be more pragmatic than the previous owner . I can't remember it being such a big problem for players to move between the clubs prior to his tenure (and the current era of social media bollocks)?

It makes a lot of sense to have some movement with the scum, being in the same city , and given that hardly any other European clubs seem to have any money.

 

[TomHotspur]

Is it that different?

Hart/Fraser
Reguillon/Perisic
Doherty/Spence
PEH/Bissouma
Bale/Richarlison

Net spend 20/21 £53m
Net spend 22/23 "about £80m

Throw in covid uncertainty, empty stadiums and Ropey league football, the spend difference is barely worth noting and we signed players in exactly the same positions.

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It’s actually quite staggering when you put it like that. Even the same type of player in each position!

-An old, experienced cheap English back up keeper.
-A mostly very highly regarded left wing back (let’s hope Perisic proves a better buy than Regi)
-A solid mid table premier league midfielder for relatively cheap.
- a Brazilian number 9.
- a cheap second/third/fourth choice option at Centre Back.

Pretty much the only difference of any substance is the wild card of Bale in 2020.

 

[Dr Rocktopus]

I accept my views are in the minority. And tbf, that's a top post

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Is it?

 

[Matt1882]

A few gave it 10 / 10

I think I gave it 5 and took dogs abuse at the time.
Turns out I was being generous

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I think it could have been viewed better if Mourinho used Bale more often, played Doc as a WB rather than a RB and didn't let the squad get so out of shape they were chasing shadows in the 2nd half of every game.

 

[Deuterz]

It’s actually quite staggering when you put it like that. Even the same type of player in each position!

-An old, experienced cheap English back up keeper.
-A mostly very highly regarded left wing back (let’s hope Perisic proves a better buy than Regi)
-A solid mid table premier league midfielder for relatively cheap.
- a Brazilian number 9.
- a cheap second/third/fourth choice option at Centre Back.

Pretty much the only difference of any substance is the wild card of Bale in 2020.

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Bissouma was/is much more highly regarded than Hojbjerg ever was. Perisic has been one of the bigger names in football for years and scored 8 whilst assisting 7 for one of Europe's biggest clubs, so again a much more reputable player than Reguilon, who was more on the highly regarded prospect tier.

And you can't compare Vinicius to Richarlison just because of nationality. One has zero Brazil caps, the other starts for them upfront & has been a top PL player for years. I'm not as enamoured with this window as some, but I don't see the point in pretending it's not a significant upgrade on 19/20.

 

[James78]

Nah, they didn’t think they were shit. Mourinho just didn’t think they were ready. They were exciting young talents not 30 year old bench warmers like Ziyech.

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Proof in the pudding - the scum sold them, rather than loaning them out and developing them.

Salah ran rings around us over two legs for Basel before signing for Chelsea. He was easily good enough for them, but Mourinho in his wisdom just didn't fancy him . Didn't he end up being a makeweight for Cuadrado deal?!

 

[TomHotspur]

Bissouma was/is much more highly regarded than Hojbjerg ever was. Perisic has been one of the bigger names in football for years and scored 8 whilst assisting 7 for one of Europe's biggest clubs, so again a much more reputable player than Reguilon, who was more on the highly regarded prospect tier.

And you can't compare Vinicius to Richarlison just because of nationality. One has zero Brazil caps, the other starts for them upfront & has been a top PL player for years. I'm not as enamoured with this window as some, but I don't see the point in pretending it's not a significant upgrade on 19/20.

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Take your point on Perisic and Richarlison. However tbf to Reguillon I would argue his stock was just as high if not higher than Perisic’s is now. He had just come off a similarly impressive season with Sevilla as Perisic had with Inter.

With regards Bissouma I think he is good don’t get me wrong but I really don’t know if he’s going to be this midfield Don, Dembele MK II so many on here think he’ll be.

At 25, there’s absolutely no way we would have had such a free run at him with no competition if he was as good as some rate him on here.

 

[Airfixx]

Nah, they didn’t think they were shit. Mourinho just didn’t think they were ready. They were exciting young talents not 30 year old bench warmers like Ziyech.

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Proof in the pudding - the scum sold them, rather than loaning them out and developing them.

Salah ran rings around us over two legs for Basel before signing for Chelsea. He was easily good enough for them, but Mourinho in his wisdom just didn't fancy him . Didn't he end up being a makeweight for Cuadrado deal?!

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The whole Salah/Jose thing is a myth...... The dates don't check out.

KDB: Yeh; just a case of a young player stuck in the pecking order wanting gametime.

 

[Sean]

Take your point on Perisic and Richarlison. However tbf to Reguillon I would argue his stock was just as high if not higher than Perisic’s is now. He had just come off a similarly impressive season with Sevilla as Perisic had with Inter.

With regards Bissouma I think he is good don’t get me wrong but I really don’t know if he’s going to be this midfield Don, Dembele MK II so many on here think he’ll be.

At 25, there’s absolutely no way we would have had such a free run at him with no competition if he was as good as some rate him on here.

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How old was Dembele when he came here? And was playing for Fulham.

 

[Sir Archibald Crooks]

How old was Dembele when he came here? And was playing for Fulham.

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25. He'd been playing at Fulham as a winger mostly until Jol converted him to midfield. Not saying he'll end up being as good but i reckon Bissouma is more highly rated than Dembele was when we signed him.

 

[Matt1882]

How old was Dembele when he came here? And was playing for Fulham.

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25

 

[Deuterz]

Take your point on Perisic and Richarlison. However tbf to Reguillon I would argue his stock was just as high if not higher than Perisic’s is now. He had just come off a similarly impressive season with Sevilla as Perisic had with Inter.

With regards Bissouma I think he is good don’t get me wrong but I really don’t know if he’s going to be this midfield Don, Dembele MK II so many on here think he’ll be.

At 25, there’s absolutely no way we would have had such a free run at him with no competition if he was as good as some rate him on here.

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Not a chance. Reguilon had one top season under his belt where he got a couple of goals & a few assists. Perisic is an established, borderline world class wing-back putting up ridiculous numbers. We're really lucky to have him, he's a top player. I had high hopes for Reguilon but he was never in that kind of category.

He was still way better than Hojbjerg ever was for Southampton. Bissouma has genuinely dominated games for Brighton & his underlying stats are incredible. I think we got a bit of a free run at him by acting quickly while there was still a bit of controversy around him. That and the 'elite clubs' currently seem to have top DM's.

 

[James78]

The whole Salah/Jose thing is a myth...... The dates don't check out.

KDB: Yeh; just a case of a young player stuck in the pecking order wanting gametime.

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Are you sure ? I thought Salah was both bought and sold under Mourinho's tenure ?

 

[GOAT]

Is it?

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Yes it is

 

[sudoku]

Russian player??

 

[James78]

I'm not arguing for signing Ziyech per se but I don't have an issue with signing an older player (he's only 29?) with a point to prove, especially at the right price (that price being under 20 ml).

 

[Sean]

25. He'd been playing at Fulham as a winger mostly until Jol converted him to midfield. Not saying he'll end up being as good but i reckon Bissouma is more highly rated than Dembele was when we signed him.

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Exactly so who knows who much better Yves is going to get here as Dembele improved greatly in the role while here.
Shame he picked up covid while in Korea as he's probably the player I was mostly looking forward to seeing in the shirt.

 

[Matt1882]

25. He'd been playing at Fulham as a winger mostly until Jol converted him to midfield. Not saying he'll end up being as good but i reckon Bissouma is more highly rated than Dembele was when we signed him.

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I dunno how we got on to Dembele but here's a stat to blow your mind

During his spell in Holland, he averaged a goal ever 4.7 games

 

[Airfixx]

The irony of the poster who your having an exchange with is that cunt has disappeared off my radar bliss

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That's not what irony means, thicko.

 

[bus-conductor]

Much rather we we interested in Pulisic than Ziyech. Much younger. Plays right and left, quicker and works harder.