Manager Antonio Conte

[Matt1882]

We need Conte at the moment,
Like it or not, we were teetering on the edge of utter disaster before he came.
Despite a few bad results, we're still 3rd in the league with some quality players to come back.

If we let him go we're going to be shopping back in the D-bucket again and probably the few decent players we have will be considering their options.

Poch back is not an option IMO. I'm tired of this argument that his teams played better football. The best football we played was for about 2 years when all the usual suspects were not really competetive and we had a squad packed full of top players under 25. And we still fell short.
And after that the football got progressively worse until he got sacked.
If we got him back, are we gonna get rid of Kane, Son and a few others and trust a bunch of kids again?
We're at a different place than we were when Poch came. I don't think he has grown yet.

 

[Top_Spur]

Levy isn't gonna sack Conte.

Levy and Conte know the situation, Conte has come out and said it himself. He said weeks ago that the team needed two more transfer windows.

Struggle to understand fans that are so quick to write someone off. If fans had their way they would sack a manager after every defeat.

No one expected us to win the league this season so we're about on par where we should be. Such a strange world where you have people wanting a manager to get sacked or leave when we're 3rd in the league. Modern football really is the worst.

 

[McCOYS]

If we got him back, are we gonna get rid of Kane, Son and a few others and trust a bunch of kids again?

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That might well be what we need to do. Our best 2 players Kane & Son aren't that good any more, Son's speculative long shots and his easy chance miss yesterday said it all really.

We need new blood up front and in defence, the midfield is okay apart from not having AMF players.

 

[GlastonSpur]

We need Conte at the moment,

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No we don't. We need a modern, progressive manager with new ideas. We've had to endure Mourinho and now Conte for too long. I don't include Nuno in that because he wasn't give much time to prove anything.

I think we should hire Jorge Sampaoli. Just until the summer, which gives us time to focus on a young, ambitious project manager who can bring through youth and play modern football - not the dross which Conte serves up.

Sampaoli plays high energy, high pressing football. Not Conte-ball "5 men behind the ball and hit it up to Harry".

 

[Airfixx]

No I didn't say that. He will not get the players he wants and needs to compete for the title as long as levy/enic are at the club. This hierarchy has one aim, top 4.

Q. The club signed 4/5 players in the summer TW.

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Clearly you can't count.....

4 or 5? Is single digit counting too much for you that you have to result to guess-work?

Wanna try that again?

Richarlison
Biss
Perisic
Lenglet
Spence
Forster
Udogie (or replace with Sarr returning from loan; depending on how you choose to slice it).

That's SEVEN.

The PL is competition of 20 clubs. All rivals made signings and improved. How much progress have we made on the pitch relative to other clubs like mancity, liverpool, woolwich, newcastle, manu and cheski? You give me a percentage or a figure from 0 to 10.

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Forget your desire for an arbitrary %.

Liverpool:

- Lower in the table than they were at the same time last season.
- Lower in the table than they finished last season.
- Lower than they finished the season before that.

Chavs:

- Lower in the table than they were at the same time last season.
- Lower in the table than they finished last season.
- Lower than they finished the season before that.

Man U:

- Same spot that they spent all last season.
- Lower than they finished the season before that.

......We on the other hand are higher in the table atm than at any point last season.



(City will walk the league and we all know why so it's futile comparison. Arse & Newcastle are doing better than last season...... Regardless; neither of these establish the "Spurs will never get better" narrative you're seeking to establish.)

 

[Guido 🇺🇦]

I fully agree but I can see how some would not buy into this when his future is still up in the air.

If you’re going to be saying stuff about the long haul then you’d probably want to make sure you at least give the appearance of being in for it as well. Talk is cheap after all

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I get where you are coming from.........

BUT

We are all conditioned to wait for a Manager (or Player) to commit and sign a long-term contract. But they are pointless. Did Poch signing a contract (two or three times) ever silence the media linking him to Chavs, Madrid or Utd? The answer, No.

If said manager on a long-term contract has a team that's playing shite and losing lots of games does it mean he won't get the sack? The answer, No.

I actually think it's a breath of fresh air that Conte and Spurs haven't got him tied down. Conte's words in the press have been absolutely fine, they've been positive about the Club, the relationship with Board and Paratici. He's been talking about building a Club, he's been talking about what's required in the future. On his contract, he sees no issues and always talks about the relationships being open, transparent, and honest (assume this is reciprocated the other way too). These are the conditions both sides are operating and neither side has expressed anything negative about it, both appear very happy to work this way.

It's only an issue because all of us have been molded into the narrative that it's only a positive if there's a long-term commitment.

 

[Brian Fantana]

I fully agree but I can see how some would not buy into this when his future is still up in the air.

If you’re going to be saying stuff about the long haul then you’d probably want to make sure you at least give the appearance of being in for it as well. Talk is cheap after all

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It seems fairly obvious that he’ll sign a new contract doesnt it? The players don’t really care. They care about two things. Getting paid and getting played. That’s it.

If the fans don’t drive him out before then of course.

 

[Doc]

Potter and ten Hag were blatantly obvious appointments for us at any point in the last two years. No longer available. Makes it pretty easy to just chill out and hope Conte turns our season around and we strengthen further in future transfer window. If he leaves I'll worry about that in the summer.

People overreacting massively to a bad week imo. When we can put out our starting front three with Hojbjerg, Bentancur and Romero on the field we'll win a lot of games and be in contention for top four. Blatantly obvious to all that we need to figure out new solutions at ccb, LCB, RW rotation and both wingback positions (and hopefully bring in a top midfielder in the next year). Knowing us, we'll manage to do about 50% of that successfully, 35% unsuccessfully and leave 15% undone.

 

[Airfixx]

According to Alisdair Gold the contract extension is in Levy's hands not Conte's.

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That's standard....

Employers offer contracts. Candidates/employees accept them or decline.

The question for Levy is are we playing the free flowing football that he said we'd get after sacking Jose?

The answer is no. If anything it's the same as when Jose was manager.

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So essentially you're saying Levy shouldn't offer Conte a new deal?

 

[Airfixx]

Levy isn't gonna sack Conte.

Levy and Conte know the situation, Conte has come out and said it himself. He said weeks ago that the team needed two more transfer windows.

Struggle to understand fans that are so quick to write someone off. If fans had their way they would sack a manager after every defeat.

No one expected us to win the league this season so we're about on par where we should be. Such a strange world where you have people wanting a manager to get sacked or leave when we're 3rd in the league. Modern football really is the worst.

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This.

Anyone would think we were shit last year and we'd brought the same poor form into this season.



This season is about improving upon last season.

 

[TheSpurEst]

Everything he says here is correct. Patience required. He hasn’t even been with us a year yet.

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Everything there might be correct.

But my question to you is - do you trust big money in the hands of a person who (despite having alternatives!) starts Emerson Royal above every other option?

I mean all in all I agree -there is additional quality needed here and there.
But is anyone suggesting that we could not do it better with current players available?

 

[Hrytn]

Levy isn't gonna sack Conte.

Levy and Conte know the situation, Conte has come out and said it himself. He said weeks ago that the team needed two more transfer windows.

Struggle to understand fans that are so quick to write someone off. If fans had their way they would sack a manager after every defeat.

No one expected us to win the league this season so we're about on par where we should be. Such a strange world where you have people wanting a manager to get sacked or leave when we're 3rd in the league. Modern football really is the worst.

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Levy won't sack Conte, he may walk away.
You have to see what's happening on the pitch and give honest opinion:
1. Have we improved since last season?
2. How did we play against manu away?
3. How did we play against woolwich away?
4. Newcastle beat us at home, who was the better team?
5. Players performances average at best in Lloris, Dier, Royal, Perisic, Sess, Davis, Son, Doh ...etc.
6. Do you believe Levy will give the players Conte needs to compete for the title in the next " two more transfer windows"?
7. Conte's play rely on wings, don't you think he has the worst tools in the squad and summer TW did f all to improve?

I am not writing Conte off, he hasn't and will not have the squad to compete at top level. There is only one way is to give Conte a blank cheque for £150m for the next 3 transfer windows and let him buy the players BUT won't happen with current hierarchy.

 

[Airfixx]

That might well be what we need to do. Our best 2 players Kane & Son aren't that good any more, Son's speculative long shots and his easy chance miss yesterday said it all really.

We need new blood up front and in defence, the midfield is okay apart from not having AMF players.

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Kane's not that good anymore?

12 x EPL apps / 10 goals / 1 assist.


An upgrade on Lucas would be nice, but are Kulu & Rich not "new blood" in attack?

 

[Airfixx]

Everything there might be correct.

But my question to you is - do you trust big money in the hands of a person who (despite having alternatives!) starts Emerson Royal above every other option?

I mean all in all I agree -there is additional quality needed here and there.
But is anyone suggesting that we could not do it better with current players available?

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Doherty is Conte's #1 RWB. Let's not pretend otherwise.

 

[Notabadsquad]

If he doesn't sign anything or commit before the World Cup, I wouldn't be surprised for Levy to go in another direction with a months break.

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Not in themiddke if the season and Levy ain't goung to pay compensation and who else us there?

We would never have looked at Howe or Potter for example although we somehow took Nunes which was just bizarre in that context.

We have had some very good managers and none had cracked the code, so I am Conte nt (see what I did there!)

He can't be blamed for us losing Kulusevski and Richarlison to injury, and his style of play is a template that has worked for him so we need to get used to it.

Conte sounds like he is staying but either way and it goes completely off the rocks I would be surprised if anything happened before the end of the season.

The last week was painful but it's very much within us. Next 3 PL games are very mportant as is Wednesday's game..

Conte may be seeking further assurances on incoming transfers. Who knows.

 

[Brian Fantana]

Everything there might be correct.

But my question to you is - do you trust big money in the hands of a person who (despite having alternatives!) starts Emerson Royal above every other option?

I mean all in all I agree -there is additional quality needed here and there.
But is anyone suggesting that we could not do it better with current players available?

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I’m less worried about the starting of Royal. I’m more concerned with him infatuation with Sessegnon who is absolutely awful. Yet gets continuously played and given a pass by fans. Emerson was miles better than him again yesterday.

 

[Airfixx]

Potter and ten Hag were blatantly obvious appointments for us at any point in the last two years. No longer available. Makes it pretty easy to just chill out and hope Conte turns our season around and we strengthen further in future transfer window. If he leaves I'll worry about that in the summer.

People overreacting massively to a bad week imo. When we can put out our starting front three with Hojbjerg, Bentancur and Romero on the field we'll win a lot of games and be in contention for top four. Blatantly obvious to all that we need to figure out new solutions at ccb, LCB, RW rotation and both wingback positions (and hopefully bring in a top midfielder in the next year). Knowing us, we'll manage to do about 50% of that successfully, 35% unsuccessfully and leave 15% undone.

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Potter wasn't. He said he'd only leave for a top 4 job...... We weren't that in the past 2 years. No way on earth we didn't at reach out to him last summer (i.e. 2021/22) tho'.

ETH was reportedly interviewed, but came accross badly..... Is that somehow linked to the fact that he'd literally just signed an extension for another year at Ajax... Perhaps he wasn't that serious and just came to have a sniff about?

 

[McCOYS]

So essentially you're saying Levy shouldn't offer Conte a new deal?

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What I'm saying is that ''We shall focus on the recruitment of a new Head Coach. We are acutely aware of the need to select someone whose values reflect those of our great Club and return to playing football with the style for which we are known – free-flowing, attacking and entertaining – whilst continuing to embrace our desire to see young players flourish from our Academy alongside experienced talent.''

Hasn't occurred.

We're still playing the same football that we played with Jose as manager.

 

[Top_Spur]

Levy won't sack Conte, he may walk away.
You have to see what's happening on the pitch and give honest opinion:
1. Have we improved since last season?
2. How did we play against manu away?
3. How did we play against woolwich away?
4. Newcastle beat us at home, who was the better team?
5. Players performances average at best in Lloris, Dier, Royal, Perisic, Sess, Davis, Son, Doh ...etc.
6. Do you believe Levy will give the players Conte needs to compete for the title in the next " two more transfer windows"?
7. Conte's play rely on wings, don't you think he has the worst tools in the squad and summer TW did f all to improve?

I am not writing Conte off, he hasn't and will not have the squad to compete at top level. There is only one way is to give Conte a blank cheque for £150m for the next 3 transfer windows and let him buy the players BUT won't happen with current hierarchy.

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Everything Conte says, shows he is willing to stay for long term, why do you think he keeps mentioning about transfer windows? Since last summer and since Conte has arrived he has changed so much at the club.
Of course we have improved from last season. This time last year we had Nuno as a temp manager with no real direction. We're third in the league compared to 9th so how is that not an improvement?
The performances were not good against Man Utd mainly, against Woolwich we self destructed like we do every season there. We were well in the game against Woolwich up until the brain fart moments from Emerson and Lloris.
Yesterday we were good until again the brain fart moments from the keeper which then just puts you on the back foot for the rest of the game.
100% I believe the board will back Conte in the next couple of windows, look at our transfer policy in the last year, its been so much better. You can't replace the whole squad in one window so it will take time.
Of course there are positions that need improving, but like mentioned above its not gonna happen over night.

 

[Shadydan]

I’m less worried about the starting of Royal. I’m more concerned with him infatuation with Sessegnon who is absolutely awful. Yet gets continuously played and given a pass by fans. Emerson was miles better than him again yesterday.

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Perisic can't play every game though, that much is clear.