Manager Antonio Conte

Tomo · 2 Jan 2023

TheSpurEst said:
Very well summed up.

I would also add:
"I have one system. And you have to give me exact tools for this one system only. I cannot change it at all, and I don't give a damn what the players skillsets are. I play same setup every game and if possible I chose my favorites despite their form or performances".

That quote could be used for Pep or some other elite managers. You get a cheque book manager you know what you are in for, if we weren’t getting Bastoni, Dumfries and the rest then why hire Conte. If the manager doesn’t align with your transfer policies you will always fail.

Gmspurs · 2 Jan 2023

Sir Archibald Crooks said:
Its not all Contes fault, in fact most of it isnt but its patently obvious now he wont be with us next season so whats the point in limping on? This side aren't going to suddenly start playing well. Something has been broken all season. For once can the board be pro active, make the change and give a new manager the January window at least and actually support him properly.

It's a simple as this really...... If I had any realistic expectation of Conte being here next season, then I'd say we could buy a couple of players and ship a few out.

But when it's blatantly obvious he's doing a runner at the end of the season, what's the point.

bk_spur · 2 Jan 2023

jack sparrow said:
and pigs fly

don't believe in fairy tales, there is a reason if united bought those two players for that amount of money instead of cheaper alternatives

I'm not really sure what you're point is- they're United and spend a lot of money. Ten Hag is a proven coach who has proven capable of taking smaller league teams on deep Champions League runs. Ajax under Ten Hag developed a ton of quality players. Conte and Levy/ENIC not so much.

To be honest it sounds like you're just throwing a fit and externalizing your frustrations. May I suggest a target for you?: Levy/ENIC.

jack sparrow · 2 Jan 2023

Tomo said:
That quote could be used for Pep or some other elite managers. You get a cheque book manager you know what you are in for, if we weren’t getting Bastoni, Dumfries and the rest then why hire Conte. If the manager doesn’t align with your transfer policies you will always fail.

conte has said that he agrees with the club policy.
the problem is the expectation of many fans who thought we could fight for the title.
ATM reality is that we have to struggle for the first 4 places, and the 4th place last year was a miracle (we played only 1 competition, we didn't have injuries, Woolwich suicided himself, United was a mess, Newcastle did not exist)

TheSpurEst · 2 Jan 2023

Tomo said:
That quote could be used for Pep or some other elite managers. You get a cheque book manager you know what you are in for, if we weren’t getting Bastoni, Dumfries and the rest then why hire Conte. If the manager doesn’t align with your transfer policies you will always fail.

Well, yea... you have a point in that.

But I do not believe that any fans, management board members, players or Conte himself thought that we would go for best player in every position?

Last year the same coach had the same squad play effective football.
In summer he in fact got new additions - Bissouma, Richie were proven players in the league, in their prime (26 yo and 25 yo - hardly newbies); Perisic - player with international pedigree and with whom he has been working with before. Plus two punts on top of that - one young (Spence) and one older (Lenglet). Not a single important player was lost.

And what is the result of this - total fucking meltdown.
Excuses of "buying 10 mil players" is fucking outrageous - Richie cost 60 mil, Bissouma 30 mil (and was relatively cheap due to his contract situation). It just feels like really fucking comfortable excuse.

jack sparrow · 2 Jan 2023

bk_spur said:
I'm not really sure what you're point is- they're United and spend a lot of money. Ten Hag is a proven coach who has proven capable of taking smaller league teams on deep Champions League runs. Ajax under Ten Hag developed a ton of quality players. Conte and Levy/ENIC not so much.

To be honest it sounds like you're just throwing a fit and externalizing your frustrations. May I suggest a target for you?: Levy/ENIC.

ten haag worked for ajax for 5 years, in a club whose aim is to develop players.
conte works for tottenham from 1 year, and nobody has asked him to develop players, he is here to win a trophy, without players able to win a trophy.

when ten hag will win 4 serie A, a EPL and a FAcup I will change my mind of who is the best coach between them

skywalker68 · 2 Jan 2023

TheSpurEst said:
It is total crap.

He has Harry Kane to use.
Emery had Ollie Watkins.

It is not about the tools. It is about the absolute idiot who cannot use the tools.

One can say whatever about Levy and ENIC. But in our current run of form, we have been outplayed by Aston Villa and we fell behind against fucking Brendford.

These comments might have any point against really big boys, but right now his system is being cracked open and actually has been since end of August, game against Wes Ham when they just dropped deep and let our midfield move the ball slowly and created nothing. Since then we have only 2 games I think when we actually had significant upper-hand - following game against Fulham and then against Everton.

Ideas are up. No alternative or ideas how to fix it. So just not up to task.

I agree with you on that, the players along with the tactical set up have not been up to the task.
We should be beating teams like this especially at home, the games are just error strewn, for a manager earning that amount he has to be culpable as well.
ENIC have not helped, but I expect to see him go now very disappointed.

SpiderSpurs · 2 Jan 2023

Conte: “We did a miracle, trust me. To become title contenders here you need a solid foundation, 14-15 strong quality players”.
“Then you add two players for £60m, £70m players to improve the level of your team every season. So you need time”
[Alasdair Gold ]

Anyone else read this as a cry out for backing?

Notabadsquad · 2 Jan 2023

TheSpurEst said:
It is total crap.

He has Harry Kane to use.
Emery had Ollie Watkins.

It is not about the tools. It is about the absolute idiot who cannot use the tools.

One can say whatever about Levy and ENIC. But in our current run of form, we have been outplayed by Aston Villa and we fell behind against fucking Brendford.

These comments might have any point against really big boys, but right now his system is being cracked open and actually has been since end of August, game against Wes Ham when they just dropped deep and let our midfield move the ball slowly and created nothing. Since then we have only 2 games I think when we actually had significant upper-hand - following game against Fulham and then against Everton.

Ideas are up. No alternative or ideas how to fix it. So just not up to task.

Good post.

Nothing about Conte's demeanour helps but fine if we are winning.

Offering next to nothing and in my opinion there is a growing sense of the players not buying into whatecer it is that Conte is saying.

Without a change of results if not performances this has days and not weeks to run.

Notabadsquad · 2 Jan 2023

SpiderSpurs said:
Conte: “We did a miracle, trust me. To become title contenders here you need a solid foundation, 14-15 strong quality players”.
“Then you add two players for £60m, £70m players to improve the level of your team every season. So you need time”
[Alasdair Gold ]

Anyone else read this as a cry out for backing?

Nope, just a manager who isn't doing the job he was paid to do and is constantly undermining the players he has. It's pathetic.

Tomo · 2 Jan 2023

If Conte walks or is sacked after having him, Jose and Poch we have basically signalled we have no fucking clue what we are doing.

wsussexspur · 2 Jan 2023

Simple really back him or sack him? No point going half measures or even hoping Conte is here for a project… he isn’t.

If levy and Paratici keep signing young players then there is zero point in keeping Conte and it’s better to get rid now before the whole situation turns even more toxic.

wsussexspur · 2 Jan 2023

Tomo said:
If Conte walks or is sacked after having him, Jose and Poch we have basically signalled we have no fucking clue what we are doing.

let’s be honest Levy/Enic don’t have a clue what they are doing On the football side of things.

spids · 2 Jan 2023

SpiderSpurs said:
Conte: “We did a miracle, trust me. To become title contenders here you need a solid foundation, 14-15 strong quality players”.
“Then you add two players for £60m, £70m players to improve the level of your team every season. So you need time”
[Alasdair Gold ]

Anyone else read this as a cry out for backing?

I read it as him saying anything higher than 5th is over achieving (and we've heard that before from other managers). It is the tactic of a man trying to protect his reputation when he knows he can only, and will, fail. I think he'll be gone at the end of the season.

All the ITK at the start of last summer suggested that Levy had finally changed his spots. We were promised massive investment and an overhaul of the squad. And at the time I think the majority felt very happy to see business done early in the window and players of the quality of like Perisic, Bissouma, and Richarlison coming in was a real step in the right direction. I'd even go as far as to say that at the end of the window I think most of us thought we'd had a much better window than Woolwich. We did however make two rather big mistakes.

We stopped short of buying a world class CB, a defensive leader - we needed to significantly overpay and wouldn't.
We did not get a top drawer RWB, so crucial to Conte's system, and instead bought a player for the future that history suggested Conte would not use.

We have been unlucky with injuries, and no-one could have predicted Son's massive and persistent slump in form, but all things considered we have messed up another golden opportunity. It will be back to the drawing board in the summer.

TheSpurEst · 2 Jan 2023

SpiderSpurs said:
Conte: “We did a miracle, trust me. To become title contenders here you need a solid foundation, 14-15 strong quality players”.
“Then you add two players for £60m, £70m players to improve the level of your team every season. So you need time”
[Alasdair Gold ]

Anyone else read this as a cry out for backing?

THATS
WHAT
HE
GOT

Richie and Bissouma (ok, Biss price was lower, but it was down to situation - pretty much every team in EPL wanted him!)
On top of that free agent in Perisic.

Why is there 0 improvement then ?!?!

Notabadsquad · 2 Jan 2023

Tomo said:
If Conte walks or is sacked after having him, Jose and Poch we have basically signalled we have no fucking clue what we are doing.

Disagree entirely.

Pochettino got within a fingertip and fell just short. Brilliant work.

Mourinho was past it full stop.

Conte is asking for the standard of players that we can't compete for. There is zero at the present time to suggest he develops players, a gripe that was common to Mourinho. It can't be that the only fair assessmebt of him comes when we have the world's best players. He is running behind his limitations.

Richard Arlison · 2 Jan 2023

Tomo said:
If Conte walks or is sacked after having him, Jose and Poch we have basically signalled we have no fucking clue what we are doing.

We basically do what Abramovich did for Chelsea with a budget for titles but with a budget for Top4.

Overpay big managers to get short term results then fire them.

Oracle · 2 Jan 2023

TheSpurEst said:
THATS
WHAT
HE
GOT

Richie and Bissouma (ok, Biss price was lower, but it was down to situation - pretty much every team in EPL wanted him!)
On top of that free agent in Perisic.

Why is there 0 improvement then ?!?!

0 improvement is being kind to Conte, we’ve gone backwards this season.

Tomo · 2 Jan 2023

Notabadsquad said:
Disagree entirely.

Pochettino got within a fingertip and fell just short. Brilliant work.

Mourinho was past it full stop.

Conte is asking for the standard of players that we can't compete for. Thrre is zero at the present time to suggest he develops players, a gripe that was common to Mourinho. It can't be that the onky faur assessmebt of him comes when we have the world's best players. He is running behind his limitations.

Hence why we have no clue. Why hire Jose if he is past it, why hire Conte if we don’t have a big enough cheque book, why not back Poch when he is on the up, none of those decisions make sense from a perspective of achievement.

Notabadsquad · 2 Jan 2023

wsussexspur said:
Simple really back him or sack him? No point going half measures or even hoping Conte is here for a project… he isn’t.

If levy and Paratici keep signing young players then there is zero point in keeping Conte and it’s better to get rid now before the whole situation turns even more toxic.

True and good point. Perisic is actually 23. Don't buy an Alvarez o Haaland as both would be too young.

And don't go for a player like Bissouma who other clubs wanted or Spence because the only reason 9ther good clubs go for them is to push up the price so that we buy them.

Blows out cheeks.

Manager Antonio Conte

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