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Manager Antonio Conte

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let's face the reality:
last january we put in 2 players and they were 2 first XI players. the team improved all of a sudden thanks to those 2 players.
last summer we put in 1 first XI player (perisic), and we improve the bench (forster>gollini, lenglet>rodon, bissouma>ndombele, sarr>winks, richarlison>bergwijn)

It's selective thinking to suggest that if integrated better; Spence, Biss & Rich couldn't have also commonly found themselves in the starting XI as the season unfolded..... Esp. Biss (who for some was our most exciting signing this summer).

if the coach does not use the bench it's clear that we worsen the results,

It also deprives new players of further opportunity to stake a claim for a starting role (see above).

because we have the same squad of last year (that barely reached the top4),

We don't though.

We've also since added Porro and Danjuma too.

more matches to play,

Only if you manage to stay in the cups...... We had ECL prelims last season and managed to stay in the LC longer. Come May,. we'll have played LESS games this season; not more.

and also injuries (romero, kulu, richi). add to all this the collapse of Lloris and son's performances and here we are

Some managers would have seen fit to drop them.

Whatever sketchy excuses one chooses to hide behind; despite investment and 2 major rivals spending much of the season faltering, Conte has failed to build upon last season and thanks to his tantrum has likely blown our chance to salvage anything from this season.

(Only credible caveat that I don't begrudge him, is his health and the passing of his friends.)
 
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Th match of the day footage was interesting. They showed we switched to a 451 and rigidly stuck to it.
Either the players are suffering a mystical mass delusion whereby they all had the same idea at the same time, or they were told to do that.
Ofc it was deliberate tactic sane as playing so slow in first halve every bloody game. It’s the hardman conte playing a meek style football. Basically surrender possession and ground. In fact boregate dies the same. The 2nd v Italy was exactly a spurs conte performance. No control, passing, sitting deep and hitting aimless long balls.
 
You missing the Point. Levy chose the players, the managers just had to try and make things work.

No

Conte worked alongside Paratici to bring players in, what do you think the point of a DOF was?

Conte had more than a say that any other manager we've had at this club and he's had more money to spend that any other manager at this club.

Quit the excuses.
 
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200 m sounds a lot of money but it needs breaking down into where it went and whether its had any or how much impact.

40 mil on Romero who was already here and 60 on Richi. Thats half of it already.
Spence, Bissouma, Gil....no impact. That don't leave much change out of 200.
 
200 m sounds a lot of money but it needs breaking down into where it went and whether its had any or how much impact.

40 mil on Romero who was already here and 60 on Richi. Thats half of it already.
Spence, Bissouma, Gil....no impact. That don't leave much change out of 200.

You don't count Romero because the money was spent for Nuno, not Conte

What you do count is the 10 players we have bought for Conte including the loan players with the committed fees which come up to over £200m

It's a lot of money for a club like us to spend and commit to especially for a coach who is essentially on a short term contract.
 
It's selective thinking to suggest that if integrated better; Spence, Biss & Rich couldn't have also commonly found themselves in the starting XI as the season unfolded..... Esp. Biss (who for some was our most exciting signing this summer).



It also deprives new players of further opportunity to stake a claim for a starting role (see above).



We don't though.

We've also since added Porro and Danjuma too.



Only if you manage to stay in the cups...... We had ECL prelims last season and managed to stay in the LC longer. Come May,. we'll have played LESS games this season; not more.



Some managers would have seen fit to drop them.

Whatever sketchy excuses one chooses to hide behind; despite investment and 2 major rivals spending much of the season faltering, Conte has failed to build upon last season and thanks to his tantrum has likely blown our chance to salvage anything from this season.

(Only credible caveat that I don't begrudge him, is his health and the passing of his friends.)
it's not selective thinking, it's realistic thinking.
among all those players only perisic was certain to have a place in the first XI.
I said many times that the lack of rotations was the main problem, because our level in this season could be raised only using the bench.
without the bench we are worse than last year (look the post to which I replied) so focusing on the same XI players was a suicidal strategy.
things could be different if we had improve the first XI with 2-3 players, but it wasn't our case

porro arrived in the last day of the session and we all see how his debut was, so it is clear that we should have bought him first to make the difference in the crucial match of this season (AC Milan)
 
it's not selective thinking, it's realistic thinking.
among all those players only perisic was certain to have a place in the first XI.
I said many times that the lack of rotations was the main problem, because our level in this season could be raised only using the bench.
without the bench we are worse than last year (look the post to which I replied) so focusing on the same XI players was a suicidal strategy.
things could be different if we had improve the first XI with 2-3 players, but it wasn't our case

porro arrived in the last day of the session and we all see how his debut was, so it is clear that we should have bought him first to make the difference in the crucial match of this season (AC Milan)
Conte never used the bench though! Plenty of games we could have given minutes to players but choose not to.
 
Conte never used the bench though! Plenty of games we could have given minutes to players but choose not to.
the ideal was to rotate 2 players in every match from day 1.
but tell me one elite coach that does it sistematically. coaches use their best weapons.
they don't do strategy to win the war, but the single battle, because they are judged in the short term. imagine what would have been said if we had lost a couple of games in a row with kane (fit) on the bench
 
the ideal was to rotate 2 players in every match from day 1.
but tell me one elite coach that does it sistematically. coaches use their best weapons.
they don't do strategy to win the war, but the single battle, because they are judged in the short term. imagine what would have been said if we had lost a couple of games in a row with kane (fit) on the bench
I didn’t say start ksne on the bench. I said giving minutes in 2nd where we can to the new players. I’m sure Biss, rich, spence could have been given more minutes than they actually got. Sane with skipp and Sarr.
 
it's not selective thinking, it's realistic thinking.
among all those players only perisic was certain to have a place in the first XI.
I said many times that the lack of rotations was the main problem, because our level in this season could be raised only using the bench.
without the bench we are worse than last year (look the post to which I replied) so focusing on the same XI players was a suicidal strategy.
things could be different if we had improve the first XI with 2-3 players, but it wasn't our case

porro arrived in the last day of the session and we all see how his debut was, so it is clear that we should have bought him first to make the difference in the crucial match of this season (AC Milan)
It wasn’t that easy with Porro, it’s not as if he had a buy-out clause that meant we could just pay up and complete the transfer 1st Jan

Oh no, bartering to do. Penny wise pound foolish is always the best approach
 
it's not selective thinking, it's realistic thinking.
among all those players only perisic was certain to have a place in the first XI.

I fully expected that by the end of this season Biss & Spence would would be first team regulars alongside Perisic..... Esp. Biss...... No way he just came here to pick up the slack created by Winks going out on loan; he was already a top PL MF.

Irony here is that Perisic (of all the new guys; the player who has Conte's name on him the most) has probably been the worst signing of the lot.

I said many times that the lack of rotations was the main problem, because our level in this season could be raised only using the bench. without the bench we are worse than last year (look the post to which I replied) so focusing on the same XI players was a suicidal strategy.

Worse because of Hugo & Son's performances, but no-one came into this season expecting anything other than plenty of goals from Son.

...And yet the guy you're routinely defending didn't see fit to make the most of said bench and swap them out.

Pardon me for underlining this, but you already said in the same post that a) we did improve the squad and b) that we didn't improve the squad. Doesn't give the impression you're being entirely on the level.....

things could be different if we had improve the first XI with 2-3 players, but it wasn't our case

(See top of post.)

I've said before, but our trf business pointed towards a shift to the 352 that Conte more commonly used, but he never came close to pulling the trigger on it.

Biss at CM
Peri/Spence - 2 WBs with an emphasis on attack.
Richy making for 4 really good options to rotate in the front 2

....And it would have put our trf window in a different light.

porro arrived in the last day of the session and we all see how his debut was, so it is clear that we should have bought him first to make the difference in the crucial match of this season (AC Milan)

Porro having a few extra game sunder his belt doesn't save that cup tie for us. That 2nd tie was a joke and wasn't about any one individual player. Conte himself however was the over arching story.
 
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