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Management Levy / ENIC

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She’s saying that , and she doesn’t have to pay to watch it

And has a direct hand in contributing to the reasons for it.

the worst thing about it was for anyone with an iota of football passion, that performance was never shit at any point in the game.

She's been a director in a premier league club for 20 years and still has no idea what she's looking at unless the score tells her it's good or bad,

Why even go to the game?
 
Here is a direct quote from the following post from yesterday:

Management - Levy / ENIC

"Those Levy wankers are tossers and need hounding for their bollock bullshit."

How is my comment that people say things like "Levy worshippers should be rounded up and shot" that different to the above? It's basically the same isn't it, or am I going mad?

This is why it's so hard to discuss with you - you simply won't accept the reality of what happens on both sides of the argument. :(
A few days later I was called a "div" (short for "special needs individual") and there wasn't a peep from the Enic out posters.

On the contrary one Enic out poster even tried to argue that this was an acceptable insult.
And another thought it was "funny"

And they try to argue that they are morally superior.

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the worst thing about it was for anyone with an iota of football passion, that performance was never shit at any point in the game.

She's been a director in a premier league club for 20 years and still has no idea what she's looking at unless the score tells her it's good or bad,
Don't make me defend ENIC here, but the team were booed off the pitch at halftime so it's not like her sentiments weren't shared...
 
Any and everyone in this thread "with a different viewpoint" to JT on this matter is acting in bad faith/trolling/collecting a check at this point and thus not participating in civil discourse...insulting them/calling them what they are/theorizing their motivations is more than fair game. You firing shots at JT is just giving them cover they don't deserve and normalizing that asinine and corrosive behavior.

Just sayin
Tottenham Massive Tottenham Massive - this is a thoroughly deranged take. We are on the internet and someone holds a different view than you which is supported by evidence… and rather than allow that another human can think differently… you resort to strange conspiracy theories? There’s some kind of neurodivergence at play.

A bit like when you, John, claim to know other peoples nationalities on the internet. That’s not normal behaviour.
 
Asked ChatGPT to write a short poem about the blossoming friendship between Daniel Levy and John Thomas.

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Daniel Levy and John Thomas, The oddest of pairs, you'd have to notice.
One's a Spurs Chairman, the other a fan, But somehow they're friends, that's the plan.

John Thomas, a user on Fighting Cock Forum, not known for his wit, his humor, his decorum.
He loves Tottenham Hotspur, that may be a lie, And Levy, too, is a fan, you can't deny.

Their friendship is one for the books, It's full of laughs, funny looks. They bond over Spurs, and sometimes more, Like the price of a pint, or the weather's roar.

Levy and John Thomas, an unlikely duo, But they make it work, that's the clue-o. So here's to their friendship, long may it last, For it's a joy to see, a true contrast.
 
Asked ChatGPT to write a short poem about the blossoming friendship between Daniel Levy and John Thomas.

:nunothumb:

Daniel Levy and John Thomas, The oddest of pairs, you'd have to notice.
One's a Spurs Chairman, the other a fan, But somehow they're friends, that's the plan.

John Thomas, a user on Fighting Cock Forum, not known for his wit, his humor, his decorum.
He loves Tottenham Hotspur, that may be a lie, And Levy, too, is a fan, you can't deny.

Their friendship is one for the books, It's full of laughs, funny looks. They bond over Spurs, and sometimes more, Like the price of a pint, or the weather's roar.

Levy and John Thomas, an unlikely duo, But they make it work, that's the clue-o. So here's to their friendship, long may it last, For it's a joy to see, a true contrast.
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Don't make me defend ENIC here, but the team were booed off the pitch at halftime so it's not like her sentiments weren't shared...

They were booing the tannoy message that sausage rolls had sold it. The trust have made sure there are regular food announcements and updates throughout the game. “Chips ready in the south stand” got a huge round of applause.


Everyone involved in football knows that conceding a second goal just before half time is not “shit”. Gives you something to talk about at half time for a start.

And of course it’s much better to concede before half time rather than go 2-0 down just before full time.

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Asked ChatGPT to write a short poem about the blossoming friendship between Daniel Levy and John Thomas.

:nunothumb:

Daniel Levy and John Thomas, The oddest of pairs, you'd have to notice.
One's a Spurs Chairman, the other a fan, But somehow they're friends, that's the plan.

John Thomas, a user on Fighting Cock Forum, not known for his wit, his humor, his decorum.
He loves Tottenham Hotspur, that may be a lie, And Levy, too, is a fan, you can't deny.

Their friendship is one for the books, It's full of laughs, funny looks. They bond over Spurs, and sometimes more, Like the price of a pint, or the weather's roar.

Levy and John Thomas, an unlikely duo, But they make it work, that's the clue-o. So here's to their friendship, long may it last, For it's a joy to see, a true contrast.
I can beat that. I would write an ode from JT to Daniel. But I can’t be bothered.
This will do.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Tottenham are shite now
And I’m blaming you.
 
The simple fact of the matter is, unless the culture and philosophy at the club changes, the team will forever be on the outside looking in. A coach can't change it. It's barely his job, let alone the fact Levy won't let him.

All of the signings we have made, probably bar Ndombele, were/are on lower wages than the ones the coaches wanted.
They were all choice, B, C even D.
They're often not what the coach wants at all, but take up the budget because someone decided they were a good opportunity.
Transfer fees pull the wool over fans eyes. It looks like we spend a lot, but the overall packages are lower.
They should have sold up the moment the stadium had the full go ahead. The team were flying. The stadium was on the horizon, ENIC could have made decent money by selling a dream to a new owner.
Now the team is vomit inducingly bad. The stadium is starting to annoy real fans as it seems to be nothing more than marketing for other events. The long serving fans that struggled to get tickets at WHL, are now mixed in with Son fans and tourists.

There have been years and years of poor decisions that have held us back.
There is no reason why we can't be the team being chased down by City this season. They are no more powerful than us. They just had a plan, they backed their man, they recruited wisely and they ploughed past us.
 
Asked ChatGPT to write a short poem about the blossoming friendship between Daniel Levy and John Thomas.

:nunothumb:

Daniel Levy and John Thomas, The oddest of pairs, you'd have to notice.
One's a Spurs Chairman, the other a fan, But somehow they're friends, that's the plan.

John Thomas, a user on Fighting Cock Forum, not known for his wit, his humor, his decorum.
He loves Tottenham Hotspur, that may be a lie, And Levy, too, is a fan, you can't deny.

Their friendship is one for the books, It's full of laughs, funny looks. They bond over Spurs, and sometimes more, Like the price of a pint, or the weather's roar.

Levy and John Thomas, an unlikely duo, But they make it work, that's the clue-o. So here's to their friendship, long may it last, For it's a joy to see, a true contrast.
Ha ha!
This lump has apparently got me blocked until the end of the season :roflmao:
I bet an hour doesn't pass by where he doesn't take a sneaky look to see what I've posted

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Right, let's see what I can do with this. Please be patient / gentle, and bear in mind what I'm trying to achieve here... :)
I have no idea what you are trying to achieve but holding a position and searching for things to say in opposition is not good faith. Evidence leads you to a position and not the other way around...that's confirmational bias.

When someone makes a valid point you don't just reply with more random words, you either rebut the point or you cede the point...that is good faith. I see you've reference Uni so you know this...otherwise you are just engaging in a food fight. I'll not do that. Taht's the nonsense that happens in here everyday.

Now, you made your bulletpoints and I adressed each one and ceded those that I accept and rebutted the ones I wouldn't accept. Please have the same good faith respect for my posts. All it seems you've done is come up with stuff the other side can say without accepting or rejecting my points. That's not good faith and constantly bringing up what other ENIC OUT folks have done or your experience with that is not either. You are dealing with me and I only behave in good faith...so unless you've got evidence or experience with me not living up to such a standard then I'd have to wonder why you keep bringing it up.

Gotta say, Jim, so far not getting good vibes.
 
Sounds like there was a player meeting with him after the newcastle game.

Kane's post match comments yesterday, as reported in the Guardian, are interesting. I had missed them and maybe others have too:-

“The chairman asked for a meeting,” Kane said after Thursday night’s 2-2 draw with Manchester United. “Obviously I won’t go into what was said but I think it was important [for him] to understand where the players’ heads were at in that moment.
“Obviously coming off the back of that [Newcastle] result … and it wasn’t just that result, it had been building up since the international break when we conceded the two goals against Southampton.
“It was an honest conversation of where everyone is at and what we need to try to do to give us the best possible chance to finish the season with something. We’re still fighting for fourth place but if it’s not fourth we’ll try to finish fifth or sixth, as high up as we can.
“In this league, it’s so competitive, you can easily end up eighth or ninth if you’re not careful. That’s what it was: to give us the best chance and I’m glad we reacted like that.”
 
I have no idea what you are trying to achieve but holding a position and searching for things to say in opposition is not good faith. Evidence leads you to a position and not the other way around...that's confirmational bias.

When someone makes a valid point you don't just reply with more random words, you either rebut the point or you cede the point...that is good faith. I see you've reference Uni so you know this...otherwise you are just engaging in a food fight. I'll not do that. Taht's the nonsense that happens in here everyday.

Now, you made your bulletpoints and I adressed each one and ceded those that I accept and rebutted the ones I wouldn't accept. Please have the same good faith respect for my posts. All it seems you've done is come up with stuff the other side can say without accepting or rejecting my points. That's not good faith and constantly bringing up what other ENIC OUT folks have done or your experience with that is not either. You are dealing with me and I only behave in good faith...so unless you've got evidence or experience with me not living up to such a standard then I'd have to wonder why you keep bringing it up.

Gotta say, Jim, so far not getting good vibes.
No, me neither. :(

You say that you've addressed my points, but to my mind I've then in turn done my best to respond to yours, which I assumed was how debates work, yet what I get back is accusation of 'random words' - they aren't random words to me, they are me doing my best in good faith (an expression that you initially used and keep using, that's the only reason I'm using it too). Just because someone disagrees with you or proposes a different way of looking at something (or in my case tries to find examples of how others might do so), that doesn't make them 'random words'. I apologies that my knowledge isn't robust enough to discuss some of the elements in detail, but suggesting that I don't have 'good faith respect' for your posts is unnecessarily rude, and reading back through our conversation I don't think that is true at all. I'm honestly just trying to be as balanced and open-minded as I can (whilst accepting and being aware of both my bias and my confirmation bias, as stated throughout - it's unfortunate that others rarely seem able do the same...).

Given the nature of the conversation to date, it's probably not worth continuing is it? (Happy to do so if you think either of us will get something out of it, but I fear we are talking different languages and very clearly have very different objectives / agendas here).

I do sincerely thank you for the time you've taken to respond me in your earlier posts though - there are a few questions I had in my own mind about the nature of the more 'eloquent' ENIC OUT posters, of which I obviously see you as one, and I think I've got the answers to those questions, so I'm grateful for that at least. On the reverse side, I've clearly disappointed you, so apologies for that. Who knows, maybe one day ENIC will sell up to an owner who makes everyone happy, then we'll all be 'friends' on here! 😂
 
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You say that you've addressed my points, but to my mind I've then in turn done my best to respond to yours, which I assumed was how debates work,
No...you've just said things in response to my points. You've not accepted or rejected the validity of those points as I did with your first post. You are free to do that with my previous post in response to your point #1. And I will respond in kind...it doesn't take a lot of words

Seems only 1 side showing good faith here, Jim. I won't accuse you of bad faith but let's just say that in the directions to bad faith town I've so far seen some of the landmarks they said I'd see. And the only people that go to bad faith town are those for whom the evidence doesn't support their perspective.
 
No...you've just said things in response to my points. You've not accepted or rejected the validity of those points as I did with your first post. You are free to do that with my previous post in response to your point #1. And I will respond in kind...it doesn't take a lot of words

Seems only 1 side showing good faith here, Jim. I won't accuse you of bad faith but let's just say that in the directions to bad faith town I've so far seen some of the landmarks they said I'd see. And the only people that go to bad faith town are those for whom the evidence doesn't support their perspective.
I do accept all the points that you make as one way of looking at each of those elements - I don't think you are 'wrong' about any of them, and I accept each and every one of them as valid points (I'm not just saying that, I've just gone back again and checked every sentence to ensure that what I've just said about your comments is true). However I also accept that others may have counter-points which lead to different conclusions (as is the nature of debate...), and that is what I've tried to provide - I'm not trying to promote one side over the other or say who the 'winner' is, I'm just trying to demonstrate that there are points to be made on both sides.

I don't accept that 'only 1 side is showing good faith' at all (or perhaps I do... ;) ) - I'm doing my best to do exactly that, apologies if it doesn't seem that way. It seems what you really want here may be ENIC IN enthusiast who you can defeat in an argument - if so then I'm not here to do that, and as I keep saying, it was never my intention. My intention was to see if the opinions and thought-processes of one side could be understood / accepted by the other, and as I say, in this case I'm pretty sure I've got an answer to that.
 

This is a really good article, for its genre.

Confirming that Kane, Dier, Lloris, Hojbjerg was the group that met with Levy, and the message seems to have been "lads, it's going to cost us a ton of money if you drop out of Europe, what the fuck?"

Easy to make that a parody of Levy, but what else is he supposed to say? There being candor internally is actually kind of encouraging, IMO.
 
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