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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Waaah sick of proven winners

Waaah sick of unproven winners

Some people just love to moan and write the guy off as if it makes them look smart. Writing war and peace on why somebody shouldn't be appointed because of the sense of entitlement that comes from superior training facilities. All we need is an "end of" to complete the fuckwit flog fan bingo.

You'll all be sporting mullets this time next year and be looking up rental units in Clapham.
 
He is a son of Alexander, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Leonadis, Pericles ,
not
Rolf Harris
And i´m Confusius, the son of a bitch!

i love him so much richard speight jr GIF
 
I'd be happy enough with it. Naglesmann would excite me more, but this at least feels like a change of direction as opposed to Enrique which just smelled of Mourinho 3.0.

Last time we appointed an underwhelming manager after a somewhat exhaustive search including "sexier" names it turned out ok.
 
Didn’t know much about him a few weeks back but what I’ve seen recently on the internet etc I find rather underwhelming- his interviews and team talks all seem a bit cliched and corny - watched a bit of Scottish football and the standard is not great and the recruitment to Celtic may have been enough to win them a treble but very few of their players would get in a decent prem team - lastly Gerrard looked awesome at Rangers but was absolutely useless at Villa
Hope I’m wrong but it’s a no from me and having forked out over a grand on a season ticket I’d probably be looking for a refund
Sorry, but this is simply untrue.

Slippy G did NOT look in anyway "awesome" at Rangers.

He was a baw hair away from the sack until COVID struck. The mutants were calling for his head en masse. Because of consecutive collapses post Christmas.
A perfect storm of our own utter implosion, half a squad checked out, Lennon's inability to motivate them, no fans in stadiums and let's say ... A "compliant" refereeing network won him a title.
As has been iterated on here numerous times, the SPL is indeed a two horse race.
And Slippys record in that race is utterly abysmal.
A win rate of 64 percent as a Rangers manager is utter dung. As is his trophy haul of a single piece of silverware out of nine available in his Rangers tenure is equally crap.
Most people were utterly flabbergasted that he wormed his way into an EPL job with a record like that.
But, as is the way with English football, reputation precedes ability. Slippy was a famous name, just like Lampard. And neither of them is in any way shape or form a manager.

But, back to Ange, as I iterated a day or so ago, he simply will not get the time needed to work his magic at Spurs.
The players Spurs have, are not equipped for "Angeball", and Levy is highly unlikely to give him the necessary budget to attain them.

Is Ange a good manager? Not even debatable. He's an INCREDIBLE manager. Proof is there at every level he's managed at, as well as co signs from names like Guardiola, who is an ardent admirer.
He's just not a fit for this Spurs team.
 
Hello Spurs fans
I’m a Celtic fan and I’ve read this thread, mainly to see if any of you were ITK about Ange but a few comments need to be addressed.

A lot of you seem to be referencing Gerrard as a measure of success in Scotland. Gerrard won a single title and no cups in three seasons. It was 1 trophy out of 9 he competed for. He wasn’t a success, he was hyped up by his friends in the media because he’s Steven Gerrard. Ange won more than him in ten months. He’s currently on 4 trophies out of 5 with a cup final this weekend to make it 5 out of 6.

“Rangers have a bloke in charge that must have won a competition or something” is another comment that has stood out. After Gerrard left, Rangers appointed GVB who had won the league at Feyenoord… Isn’t that the same pedigree as the guy Slot you all wanted last week? He then took Rangers to a Europa league final 11 months ago.
This season we’ve won the league against a Rangers team that had over 90 points. A total that would have won the title 9 times out of 10. We did it by scoring a record number of goals. We beat them in a semi final and a cup final. As I said, they were in a Europa final… not a bad team you know, beating Dortmund, RB etc.

Rodger’s was a good manager who was up against incredibly poor competition. A Rangers side that had just returned to the league and had people like Mark Warburton I charge and Scottish players with no pedigree. His trebles do not compare to the one Ange is on the verge of winning and frankly his football was extremely boring for the most part and he had the personality and charisma of a dish cloth.

When Ange joined us we were also underwhelmed, our forums had splits down the middle too and we started the season really poorly going out of the CL to some Danish team and losing quite a few of our opening games but when it clicked, it clicked and I’ve watched some of the most exciting, dynamic and expansive football I’ve ever seen us play. The guy has a good ethos on how the game should be played which is quick, front foot, attacking football. It’s all about winning and winning playing the football he likes. He has no time for defensive, turgid approaches to games. We went into a game against Real Madrid with one pivot in the 6, two 8s, two wingers and inverted full backs. He has no fear and we love that. We play single pivot against everyone and we press really high up the pitch, 100 miles from the off with a lot of great rotations on each wing. We take quick free kicks, corners and throw ins. You can find a lot good examples of that play from these games:





I can understand your reservations although some of it does come across as slightly entitled but you’re a club that seems a bit lost, there’s no connection between fans, manager and players. You’ve had a lot of big time hires that haven’t worked out. This guy is probably exactly what you should be looking for. He really unites the team and the fans together, he’s a passionate guy with incredible presence. Our players will run through walls for him but they are also shit scared of him. He has no time for egomaniacs or primadonnas. He’ll weed them out fast.
Lastly, this man is a mentality monster. You are criticising his lack of pedigree. Wake up, do you know how difficult it is for a guy who’s managing in Australia to get noticed? There’s a bias towards managers from Europe or in Europe. The Morocco manager referenced it during the World Cup.
Ange has had no help, no leg up ala Gerrard, Lampard etc. He started off with Australia U17s and now he could become the first Australian to manage in the EPL. He rocked up at Celtic with not one member of staff. He backs himself like you wouldn’t believe and people follow this guy, he gets everyone on board. As for Levy, Ange is in charge of everything at Celtic. He does all the signings, he rejigged all the youth set up so now they all play the same tactics as the first team. He oversees the full project. We don’t have a DOF.

Absolutely desperate for him to stay at Celtic but I know the nature of the beast. We worship him like a God. I’ve never known a manager to be so in sync with the fans. We know Ange though and he’ll be very keen on being the first Aussie to manage in the EPL given everything he’s had to overcome to get here.

Thanks for that!
 
Ange is unproven in this league, but the guy has been up against it everywhere and come out on top. (maybe not quite in the World Cup..but he got them there)
He always wins the players over and likes to play entertaining football.
A determined and loyal man.
He certainly doesn't deserve the Spurs shower of shit Chairman and board.
 
Tbf your both right Levy fucked up sacking Conte and just hoping that Stellini and Mason could somehow get us around the 4th/5th mark. But you are correct that Ange if he is the man Levy identified as who he wanted ain't gonna leave with 2 months left to walk into this dumpster fire when he's about to win a treble with Celtic.

The wise chose would have been to let Conte see this season out as it's not like the football became less shit and he wouldn't have done a worse job then Stellini and Mason did. Then not extended his deal and announce the new man is Ange at the end of Celtics season.

The sacking of Conte was complicated. He was brought in on BIG money to deliver. At a minimum, I expect he had promised top 4 and a trophy.

Following the poor run of fixtures post world cup, Conte knew he wasn't able to achieve those things. I'm pretty sure Conte's illness contributed to this immensely and he looked simply burnt out.

Without any ITK, I would suspect the conversation with Levy was along the lines of - I'm not motivated to get top 4, and I am not interested in renewing my contract in the summer; sack me if you like.
 
Sorry, but this is simply untrue.

Slippy G did NOT look in anyway "awesome" at Rangers.

He was a baw hair away from the sack until COVID struck. The mutants were calling for his head en masse. Because of consecutive collapses post Christmas.
A perfect storm of our own utter implosion, half a squad checked out, Lennon's inability to motivate them, no fans in stadiums and let's say ... A "compliant" refereeing network won him a title.
As has been iterated on here numerous times, the SPL is indeed a two horse race.
And Slippys record in that race is utterly abysmal.
A win rate of 64 percent as a Rangers manager is utter dung. As is his trophy haul of a single piece of silverware out of nine available in his Rangers tenure is equally crap.
Most people were utterly flabbergasted that he wormed his way into an EPL job with a record like that.
But, as is the way with English football, reputation precedes ability. Slippy was a famous name, just like Lampard. And neither of them is in any way shape or form a manager.

But, back to Ange, as I iterated a day or so ago, he simply will not get the time needed to work his magic at Spurs.
The players Spurs have, are not equipped for "Angeball", and Levy is highly unlikely to give him the necessary budget to attain them.

Is Ange a good manager? Not even debatable. He's an INCREDIBLE manager. Proof is there at every level he's managed at, as well as co signs from names like Guardiola, who is an ardent admirer.
He's just not a fit for this Spurs team.
Ok his an incredible manager that no team in any top European league is after. Napoli I, PSG, BM, RM, any club looking for a manager this season basically even Everton or any of the relegated clubs like Leeds and Leicester. I don’t see anyone slightly interested him? Even after 25 years of being a serial winner. That is the thinking I have although it’s not to say he can’t do a job. But why no interest in this incredible manager only ftom spurs who have a Aussie rules COF in Munn.
 
Ok his an incredible manager that no team in any top European league is after. Napoli I, PSG, BM, RM, any club looking for a manager this season basically even Everton or any of the relegated clubs like Leeds and Leicester. I don’t see anyone slightly interested him? Even after 25 years of being a serial winner. That is the thinking I have although it’s not to say he can’t do a job. But why no interest in this incredible manager only ftom spurs who have a Aussie rules COF in Munn.
First of all don't confuse or compare this Scott Munn Levy yes man with Ange.

The reason why supposedly some of these clubs you mentioned (apparently) have shown little interest in him is down to snobbery and dismissiveness because of where he comes from. Much harder getting to where he is now the way he's done it, speaks volumes!
 
First of all don't confuse or compare this Scott Munn Levy yes man with Ange.

The reason why supposedly some of these clubs you mentioned (apparently) have shown little interest in him is down to snobbery and dismissiveness because of where he comes from. Much harder getting to where he is now the way he's done it, speaks volumes!
Do you know who those so called massive clubs are after though? Jose and antonio
 
Ok his an incredible manager that no team in any top European league is after. Napoli I, PSG, BM, RM, any club looking for a manager this season basically even Everton or any of the relegated clubs like Leeds and Leicester. I don’t see anyone slightly interested him? Even after 25 years of being a serial winner. That is the thinking I have although it’s not to say he can’t do a job. But why no interest in this incredible manager only ftom spurs who have a Aussie rules COF in Munn.
Officially spurs said they weren’t interested in nagelsmann.
We did not call poch.
They are considered elite. Maybe we don’t want any managers…
 
First of all don't confuse or compare this Scott Munn Levy yes man with Ange.

The reason why supposedly some of these clubs you mentioned (apparently) have shown little interest in him is down to snobbery and dismissiveness because of where he comes from. Much harder getting to where he is now the way he's done it, speaks volumes!
Ange will be ok esp when he says he doesn’t give a Castlemagne XXXX about Woolwich.
 
The problem is, how do you get players to buy into your idea's if they don't work?
He could come in and make all sorts of promises of attacking gung ho football, but when we leak goals left right and center, and lose instead of win, those players will stop buying in PDQ.

Celtic in the CL group stages - 2 points, 4 goals, 15 against.
This is what concerns me. He's gonna probably have the same shitty defence we have now.
I think our fans really don't get why Mourinho, Nono and Conte all resorted to sitting deep. Our defence just isn't good enough to go for the kill in most games. And the midfield isn't much better.
I agreed about the defence but Midfield when all players are fit is decent ,
Bennie , Bisouma , Sarr and Skipp has the makings of something
 
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