I know. It's like we're not hiring a coach but "Big Ange". Premier League players aren't going to buy into what worked in Scotland with low wage players who just want to stay employed.
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Wow, first up I watched his team in Australia - nope it was not good football!!! Do you understand I've actually seen where this was meant to be great and it wasn't. winning in such a poor league (spl) when you've spent 50m in two seasons is about players not style when your opponents can spend soo much less. The fact they, celtic, have won multiple trebles in the last 10 years also suggests it's not a big deal..
The fact Gerrard won something with rangers considering how bad they had been ie relegated to the bottom tier was meant to be a sign of his brilliance. (Snigger)
Celtic worst period in decades - same fucking thing, rangers are clearly going through thiers! but if not winning the league one year because their coach (Neil Lennon, good guy) had a mental break down, is their worst period well errrrr... Really so AP changed the world??...
Fuck me if you think he will come in and simply implement his (snigger) brand of football and we will simply be ok, youve lost the plot. The Celtic fans were calling him neive in Europe and that is what will translate!
Ps Guardiola has spent way less than you think in the premier League in the last few years, and like most I think he is the best manager in the world - because his record says it all in the Spanish league, German league and English league....... oh and Champions league.
So it's about understanding what he can achieve with us in the premier league based on where he has been. It's nowhere near good enough. We are trying to bring in somebody to steady the ship and build something. He is not even close to that.
Let's get something straight I've watched football in Australia, in Scotland for 5 years and England, even some in the middle east. Oh and America Spain and Holland. The differential between Australia and Scotland and the rest is mind-blowing.
Neil Lennon did a great job with Hibs so his stock is higher than that of someone who has just managed the big teams....
Plus the shit he took in Scotland was atrocious. To come back after that was brave, however I think this personally put him on the path to his issues.
Your fucking idiot. I was there 2010 -13 and went to games unfortunately. The fucking football was shit! Utter turgid bollox with the ball out of play half the game.StevenPL - I watched his team in Australia and it wasn’t good football.
Brisbane Roar fans:
Mate you are a total dingbat
And you actually think that sign means anything you utter moron!
The “Old Firm” have qualified into the final 16 of the CL four times and been to 3 Europa league finals in the last 20 years.
You’re an absolute idiot man
We’ve done it 3x out of 11 appearances in the groups.
06/07
07/08
12/13
I'm sure you did.
Are you being dense on purpose?
Lol now I know you're trolling.
25 points off top. No trophy in a season for the first time in a decade. Yes, their worst period in decades. I didn't say Postecoglu changed the world. I said he took them over at their worst in decades and proceeded to win 5 of 6 available trophies whilst playing the best football they've seen.
I am not sure a single person has said this would be the case.
He has spent over 1 billion on transfers and wages. Which was actually more than I thought. Of course he's the best manager in the world.
We choose to simply look passed the fact he was in charge of the greatest club football team in the world, the best team in Germany by a distance and for the majority of his time in England, the richest football club in the world because we can see his coaching styles implemented on the teams, regardless.
See, now you're finally getting it.
Are we?
I would argue Spurs right now need someone who can come in, coach a bunch of players how to actually play football and mould a squad for exactly that to put is in the best possible shape going forward and if we've seen anything from Postecoglu's CV, that's exactly what he specialises in.
So again, you don't have a single tangible reason as to why his style of high pressing, attacking football wouldn't work in the Premier League?
It's looking more and more obvious that you haven't got a clue. You've never seen an Ange Postecoglu team play football. You'd never even heard of him before we were linked and because of that, you're basing your opinions.
That's well ans good. But just say that. You're not happy that Spurs are appointment someone you've never heard of before.
Your a fucking embarrassment. They've won a combined 1 game in the last 10 fucking years in the cl.... 1, that's one!The “Old Firm” have qualified into the final 16 of the CL four times and been to 3 Europa league finals in the last 20 years.
You’re an absolute idiot man
Mate your a fucking fanny as they say up in bigot land. Just so we can make you aware of the difference in fucking quality. In that same 20 years 14 English teams have got to the final of the champions league, 8 to the Europa League final and 1 to the conference thing.
So where do you think priorities lie....
I honestly never heard of this guy until two weeks ago. I feel like I've watched 30 interviews of his, read 100 articles and watched multiple YouTube videos explaining his style as well as a few TFC podcasts about him.
I might be drinking the kool-aid but I'm all in. I wasn't sold on Slot, he just never felt right, Nagelsmann seems like a prick and Enrique feels too flashy. Ange is the guy I really believe we can get behind and turn things around.
I might be drinking the kool-aid but I'm all in. I wasn't sold on Slot, he just never felt right, Nagelsmann seems like a prick and Enrique feels too flashy. Ange is the guy I really believe we can get behind and turn things around.
angry little odd ball.
A billion on wages and signings, well I said recently but it's great to see you included wages.... How much have Chelsea just spent??? No compare ...
You are fucking delusional not realising the difference in ability to coach between the spl and England especially when you have the old firm and money compared to say st Johnstone..., his style of football (not from what I saw in aus) its competence that counts not fucking style of football. You want a coach who can play good football so do I! But what makes you think this guy's Cv is going to deliver that on this stage. Do you remember Ossie??.
So basically your numbers look stupid when put into context and that's all you've got. Away back to bigot land and enjoy beating Dundee.
Fine, I won't include wages. He's spent over a billion in transfer fees alone.
I forgot that other leagues have different amount of players on the pitch at once and use different balls. I apologise.
how can numbers look stupid? Celtic and Rangers have been in the CL final 16 four times and been in 3 European finals this century. What context are you putting that into that makes it look stupid?
Context: two clubs from Scotland have done incredibly well to achieve these things in Europe considering the financial hindrances they have.
Here’s numbers for you:
1 trophy in 30 years.
Here’s context:
1 billion spent on players.
No wonder you’re so highly strung you clown.
Listen, I'm not going to argue the SPL is a far far shot from the Premiership, but I'd be genuinely interested in Celtic v Spurs stats in Europe since 2000 for win/draw/lost, all competitions. I don't think Ange is ready for a job like Spurs (at present), but to disrespect Celtic as if Spurs are world beaters, having won ONE trophy since 2000, is a bit unfair and ridiculous.
I'm a Celtic fan and signed up thru genuine interest in Spurs fans opinions seeing as it's our manager and as I'm not a Spurs fan, I'll be respectful of your forum. I'm giving my genuine opinion on his readiness for a team like yours, of which I think he's knocked it off to be considered so early and unexpectedly given his experience and achievements (which btw, have been very good, even if you turn your nose up at our league or Japan).
My opinion is he's more suited to a mid table Premiership outfit. That way he could build a team into his attacking philosophy without the added pressure of trying to stay in the top six.
Now, as I'm not a Spurs fan, I've no idea what the majority fanbase mindset is on your current standing in the footballing world. In Scotland where like anywhere outside England, there's lots of interest in all EPL matches and not one single team, Spurs aren't considered on the level of Liverpool, Man C, Man U, Chelsea and Woolwich. I say that not as a dig. A lot of football fans up here think the "team Kane plays for and the team Bale played for", before thinking of "top six" when thinking of Spurs. You're seen as a good team who've punched above your weight and were unlucky that one time in the Champions League.
Should the fanbase think you're a top six club, challenging for the title... I think Ange is a project pick that could see you struggle to make that so. His philosophy took a bit of time for players to adapt to up here, but he was lucky we were already stronger than other teams and I'll say it, Rangers were a mess and only won the season before because of Neil Lennon dropping the ball and COVID keeping fans away from stadiums, which played into Rangers hands. Their fans are pretty toxic with criticism, so the players had that off their backs. It was no shock they regressed the very next season and after very poor transfer activity, lost to Ange... Who spent well and far greater.
If your fanbase thinks getting into the top six is a bonus and you're playing to be in the top ten, maybe Ange will work out. His football can be a joy to watch, but he is stubborn in the formation and match management, which cost us in Europe. Plus injuries to key players have left us playing really bland football. Tho playing up against a ten man defence, as was the case today in the final, it's hard to break the lines.
Anyway, if he goes, he'll get more money, probably a bigger transfer kitty and the attraction of a better league. Spurs can be a decent team, but tbf, it's the league that's the attraction. I think Rodgers would be more suited to you. More experience definitely in the EPL and had success with a team nobody expected to win the league. Also has experience at a bigger side in Liverpool.
Editnly to correct one misplaced word
Sounds much more reasonable/likely. Thanks.
Oh and I love beating Dundee.
Probably a lot more than you love watching your team fail to win anything whilst an Oil funded club makes an absolutely mockery of your league.
