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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)

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CapitolSpur said:
Or, we leak that we are going after van der Ven to pressure Leverkusen to agree on a reasonable price for our real target, Tapsoba.

It’s basically impossible to know from these leaks what’s real and what’s being leaked for strategic leverage reasons. I mean, it’s entirely possible that the Raya leaks were just meant to help our negotiations with Vicario - none of us have any idea.
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I don't think there is such a thing as leaks. Clubs know through their contacts who is interested in whom. They are not relying on Twitter to get their information.

Let's take the VdV?tapsoba situation. Why would we need to leak anything? We just go to Leverkusen and tell them we want Tapsoba and this is our offer, because we are eyeing another CB that plays in the Bundesliga. We tell them. Leverkusen confirm through their contacts (not Twitter) that we are negotiating with VdV and realize that we have alternatives. I mean, if Romano can find out, I'm pretty sure clubs can too. At that point, and based on what other offers they may have or anticipate for the player and how willing they are to sell him, they decide whether they want to negotiate closer to what we're offering.
Pretty straightforward stuff without even involving Twitter.
 
Richard Arlison said:
If we end up with Van de Ven and he's good, it's inevitable that we have issues keeping him in 2-3 years time. Basically as soon as he has adapted to the level and proven himself, they will be fishing for Bayern, Barca, Real etc.

Could still do it but going in eyes open.
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Again, the fact that we may lose a player in the future because he is really good, shouldn't mean we don't go for him. If anything, one more reason to go for him. Because they alternative is we go for players that will never become that good, which I don't think is what we want to be doing.
 
To Dare Is To Do. said:
IN:
Vicario- 17m
Tapsoba- 45m
Van de Ven- 35m
Lukeba- 30m
Scott- 25m
Maddison- 45m
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I can't believe how many of you are advocating keeping GLC around.
He's below average on a good day, injury prone, completely lacking any form of commitment to the cause. Get him off the books as soon as possible. He'd be stealing a squad space with no benefit to the team at all.
 
CerealMaterial said:
Might be the most realistic out fees I've seen to date. Could see Sanchez going for a bit more, but the others really are about what they're worth.
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Yeah, all in all a rather sad looking list. How the fuck has reguilon completely disappeared into the void? He should have at least been a 'at least we got a good price for him' category, not practically given away.
 
To Dare Is To Do. said:
IN:
Vicario- 17m
Tapsoba- 45m
Van de Ven- 35m
Lukeba- 30m
Scott- 25m
Maddison- 45m

OUT:
Lloris
Dier- 10m
Sanchez- 5m
Rodon- 5m
Tanganga- Loan
Perisic
Sessegnon- 10m
Reguilon- 5m
Winks- 5m
Hojbjerg- 20m
Ndombele- 10m

Net Spend- 130m
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I doubt anyone would pay £10m for Dier. Or Sessegnon. Dier is pants and Sessegnon is pants and made from glass.
Rest would all be good value for buyers.

Shocking illustration though of how buying tripe so often is so costly.
 
Darnswim said:
From what I read, Van De Ven can also play as a LB?


Is there a World where we sign both Tapsoba and Van De Ven and shift out all of Perisic, Sessegnon, Reguilon, Dier, Sanchez, Rodon? Has the club finally become competent?
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If we want to play a high line and have already lost Lenglet from last season and Davinson wants to leave then we will need a minimum of 2 in.

Romero had his issues last season and as we know will always get suspensions due to his nature, Dier has a year left on his current deal and Tanganga should be off. Davies in a high line? Not sure about that one... Sessegnon and Perisic both flatter to deceive so I can't see why the club wouldn't think acquiring both isn't practical or unreasonable.

What our backline depth SHOULD look like is Romero, Tapsoba, Van De Ven, Ronnie Edwards/ Tosin.

The gooners are looking at getting Timber in that leaves them with similar international level depth, it's not being greedy its just being necessary.
 
Matt1882 said:
I doubt anyone would pay £10m for Dier. Or Sessegnon. Dier is pants and Sessegnon is pants and made from glass.
Rest would all be good value for buyers.

Shocking illustration though of how buying tripe so often is so costly.
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C'mon. Dier is worth more than 10m. 20m would be a great price for him. England international and a decent CB and leader.

Our defensive troubles this year were the result of a failed system, and club moral hitting an all time low.

Sure, he's not likely to be buy for anyone in the top 8, but any other EPL club would jump at the chance to sign him.
 
KaneIsAble said:
Yeah, all in all a rather sad looking list. How the fuck has reguilon completely disappeared into the void? He should have at least been a 'at least we got a good price for him' category, not practically given away.
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Yea I genuinely don't understand what happened with him. Wasn't he young player of the year when we signed him? I even recall some non Spurs supporting mates saying we got a great LB on our hands.

My recollection of him in a Spurs shirt is just looking busy, while running down blind alleys.

Matt1882 said:
I can't believe how many of you are advocating keeping GLC around.
He's below average on a good day, injury prone, completely lacking any form of commitment to the cause. Get him off the books as soon as possible. He'd be stealing a squad space with no benefit to the team at all.
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While I'd prefer to not see him in a Spurs shirt again To Dare Is To Do. To Dare Is To Do. does make a fair point that we'd get 15m for him at most, and if we're looking to invest that 15m into another midfielder we wouldn't get very far. Out of all the players we've got on loan he's probably one of the better ones, that is actually still useful. We've also had two coaches that don't really suit his style of play, it shouldn't be too hard for Ange to get more out of him.
If it means keeping him around for another few months and instead using the money to get better CBs in I'd be all for that.
 
Raumdeuterz said:
Davies is a serviceable footballer, not sure why he always gets lumped in with Dier. He’s uninspiring but as a squad player dependable enough.

Pretty much every team has a handful of players like him knocking about, the issue is when he ends up first choice, not that he is a Spurs player.
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This is not true, he’s just as bad as the rest of them if not the worst

Cannot defend 1v1, cannot play from the back, aerially weak, poor defensive positioning.

That Brentford game sealed his fate at this club, even Sess and Reggie have never been that bad.

I can tolerate any deadwood not leaving this season but not him and Dier
 
To Dare Is To Do. said:
IN:
Vicario- 17m
Tapsoba- 45m
Van de Ven- 35m
Lukeba- 30m
Scott- 25m
Maddison- 45m

OUT:
Lloris
Dier- 10m
Sanchez- 5m
Rodon- 5m
Tanganga- Loan
Perisic
Sessegnon- 10m
Reguilon- 5m
Winks- 5m
Hojbjerg- 20m
Ndombele- 10m

Net Spend- 130m
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Some of these are also on a decent salary. When they turn out to be crap we’re lumbered. These lower level teams they need to play for simply can’t afford it. We can drop the transfer fee but the large salary is not only hard for them to stomach, but can cause a rift in the team as others get the hump that they aren‘t being paid as much. This makes It doubly hard to move on.

we‘re between a rock and a hard place now with some. For all the shouting of “just pay them what they want” this is what happens the other end. Not aimed at you bud but the same ppl saying pay them whatever, are the same crew saying just move them on.
 
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