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I like the signing. I’ve seen a little of VDV and he has raw potential but is a long long way from the finished article.

For me the issue is “what is our transfer strategy”.

If we’re signing young talent to blood into the first XI and allowing them to grow whilst getting game time (as I think we should BTW), why aren’t we cashing in on Kane and / or Son?

It feels like we’re running 2 timelines here….

1) Immediate need to win this season and find some sort of incentive beyond loyalty for Kane to stay.

2) Building a young, talented squad that could be absolute top class by 2025.

All the signings scream a long term plan to me, which I’m all in favour of. The dismissal of offers for Kane and Som scream “win now”.

It feels like we need to commit to one of those timelines.

Of course much of this could change with further transfers over the course the window….
Has the strategy of “building a young talented squad that could be goon in X amount of years” ever actually worked for any club though?

It’s been the perennial cliche of ENIC’s reign, signing young up and coming players for a future that never arrives.
 
Has the strategy of “building a young talented squad that could be goon in X amount of years” ever actually worked for any club though?

It’s been the perennial cliche of ENIC’s reign, signing young up and coming players for a future that never arrives.
Why wouldn't you want to have a young talented squad though? There is very little downside to getting a future star before they hit their peak value and command their largest deal, they often have much higher sell on value and represent a longer number of years of service should they decide to stay. I'd say most clubs will only really pay the massive transfer fees of players in or near their prime when they have gaps that desperately need plugging in the starting XI, when you're rounding out a squad generally younger players will always be preferred. Better for succession planning in the long run.
 
Yeah really hope Dorrington impresses this month and think Tosin wouldn't be a bad squad option after Tapsoba / VDV and sell Sanchez etc.
Like Dorrington, but feel he’s still growing, his game is very up and down.

Wouldn‘t risk him yet, not even loan (have high hopes). But you never know! Would be lovely as he’s a regular youth international, think I feel protective for him physically as he’s the only high level CB we have (Sayers has looked decent TBF).
 
In know that this would be a very (over)ambitious transfer plan – and I even doubt that Inácio
and Antonio Silva would want to join Spurs (so alternative would be Tapsoba & van de Ven).
And, of course, the prices I put up can be debated.
But here we go…

KEEPERS

In:

Vicario 17M

Out:
Lloris
Whiteman

DEFENDERS

In:

Antonio Silva (release clause €100=) £85
Inácio (release clause €145=) £38
Tosin £17m
= 140m

Out:
Romeros 55m
Rodon 10m
Sanchez 10m
Tanganga 15m
Dier 10m
Sessegnon 10m
Reguilon 10m
= 120m

MIDFIELD

In
:
Maddison 40m
Alex Scott 25m
Gravenberch 25m
Arthur Vermeeren 25m
=115m

Out:
Højbjerg 30m
Winks 10m
Lo Celso 15m
Ndombele 15m
White 5m
=75m

FORWARDS

In
:
Sancho 40m
Højlund 65m
Mohammed Kudus 45m
=150m

Out:
Kane 80m
Richarlison 45m
Parrot 5m
Gil 20m
= 150m

Expenditure = 402m
Income= 345m

Spurs XI
Vicario
Porro, Antonio Silva, Inácio, Udogie
Bissouma, Gravenberch (Bentancur when back), Maddison
Sancho, Højlund, Kudus
Mate, if you feel dizzy, check your sugars as your brain seems starved of oxygen or something here.
 
Don’t know why it’s taking so long to sign one of these centre backs. Just look at their charts and see who has more green on it.

This scouting lark is fucking easy. Once you’ve mastered a pie chart you’ve mastered football.
 
Don’t know why it’s taking so long to sign one of these centre backs. Just look at their charts and see who has more green on it.

This scouting lark is fucking easy. Once you’ve mastered a pie chart you’ve mastered football.
I’m beginning to get very sceptical with those multi pointed star charts.

Saw one today where Gvardiol duels won were around 35%, miles lower than Tapsoba. I remember last week seeing it had put Dier at 5% duels won, which just can’t be right.
 
We’ve been through this before, but the reality is we won’t be able to find a 20m replacement that is as good as him.

Scott we should buy and then loan out, so not a like for like replacement for GLC.

For the purposes of this exercise; I don't rate him..... He's dead wood to me. I want rid. Give the few hundred minutes (max) I envisage giving him to Divine instead. I want to spend the additional proceeds on the best CBs possible.

You think he might be of use....? You can keep him for your fantasy team..... But he's not in mine. :)
 
I’m beginning to get very sceptical with those multi pointed star charts.

Saw one today where Gvardiol duels won were around 35%, miles lower than Tapsoba. I remember last week seeing it had put Dier at 5% duels won, which just can’t be right.

All I know is that if football was that simple, data analysis would be a piece of piss. It’s very simplistically presented info with no context. And cherry picked stats!!

I remember one which showed Maguire vs VVD (during his peak) and Maguire looked far better. Especially with defenders, there’s so much work there which stats just won’t even reflect.
 
All I know is that if football was that simple, data analysis would be a piece of piss. It’s very simplistically presented info with no context. And cherry picked stats!!

I remember one which showed Maguire vs VVD (during his peak) and Maguire looked far better. Especially with defenders, there’s so much work there which stats just won’t even reflect.
I made a similar point recently and people are just like “data duhhhh” without realising that these aren’t the 6 holy stats that every eg defender must optimise. Show another 6 stats and they all look like good things for a defender to have and show a completely different picture.

That sounds like a good project actually.
 
Highly doubt he'll choose Spurs over Barca...and it's a bit late now to enter a deal... :cool:


Tottenham Hotspur are now hopeful they will be able to hijack Barcelona's move for Athletico Paranaense forward Vitor Roque, having recently made contact with the player's entourage, according to reports from Spain.

Who is Vitor Roque signing for?

Reports have indicated that Roque is on the verge of a move to Barcelona, with the La Liga club agreeing a deal worth €45m (£39m) for the forward, despite the likes of Manchester United and Paris Saint-Germain making late attempts to hijack the move.

The 18-year-old is likely to be announced as a Barca player later this week, however that has not deterred Tottenham from making a late swoop for the youngster, as reported by Spanish newspaper Mundo Deportivo (via Sport Witness).
 
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For the purposes of this exercise; I don't rate him..... He's dead wood to me. I want rid. Give the few hundred minutes (max) I envisage giving him to Divine instead. I want to spend the additional proceeds on the best CBs possible.

You think he might be of use....? You can keep him for your fantasy team..... But he's not in mine. :)
We have a big shortage in attacking mids, because of the change from 343 to 433.

It’s not smart to sell players in a position where there’s already a scarcity.
Neither Scott or Devine are going to be PL ready next season. Europa Conference may have been an opportunity to give them game time but we didn’t qualify.
 
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