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What do people think is realistic fees we can receive for our deadwood:

This is my attempt:
Lloris - Free
Dier - £3M
Sanchez - £7-10M
Tanganga - £15M
Davies - £3-5M
NDombele - £10-15M
Lo Celso - £10-15M
Sergio Reguilon £10-15M
Ivan Perisic - Free
Ryan Sessegnon - £8-12 M

So max we can expect in is £100M and that is if we are very lucky and manage to get all the players out the door. The fact is we pay most these players too highly for them to leave.
 
Kane you believe it said:
I agree, but if we consider absolute gross spend, Chelsea, City, man utd, and Woolwich are above us over past 5 years. 3 of those have won major trophies in last 5 years.

It's both.

My only point is that I agree with those who believe spurs are not undergoing the promised transformation expected after building the stadium. Our on field ambitions and likely upcoming results appear to remain the same.

Van de ven is young and promising. But you don't see teams like City or even liverpool buying a young and promising cb as a marquee centre half in a leaky defence.
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They don’t have leaky defenses
 
Kane you believe it said:
I agree, but if we consider absolute gross spend, Chelsea, City, man utd, and Woolwich are above us over past 5 years. 3 of those have won major trophies in last 5 years.
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Yeah, gross spend I believe we're in 5th place over the last five years.

Kane you believe it said:
It's both.

My only point is that I agree with those who believe spurs are not undergoing the promised transformation expected after building the stadium. Our on field ambitions and likely upcoming results appear to remain the same.
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Has anyone disagreed with that?

Kane you believe it said:
Van de ven is young and promising. But you don't see teams like City or even liverpool buying a young and promising cb as a marquee centre half in a leaky defence.
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Can't help but feel this sort of attitude prevented us from getting promising players like Kim and Kvara because of their name and lack of top level experience. Both went on to transform a Napoli team and win them their first Scudetto in over 30 years.

If our manager thinks van de Ven is suited to making us better and is what we need, so be it. This isn't a Lenglet situation where a defender is just being thrust upon a coach for value.
 
deadleyledley said:
I don't understand why not both.

Unless we go for Tapsoba next summer.

You've got to be aware of the fact that in all likelihood Dier leaves on a free next summer, Davies will go and so will Perisic.

We are probably looking to move on Sanchez and Rodon this year.

Tanganga could easily go and if a decent offer for Romero comes in he could leave next year too.

So is the plan to then buy 2 CBs next summer?
Dorrington up as reserve having gone on loan this year? The more I think, I can see us getting Lenglet this summer.

That leaves you with going into 2024/25
van de Ven
Lenglet
Dorrington
CB1
CB2
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That Danish boy Victor Nelson is also in the mix. Well get in, the 2 cheapest and Tosin the cheapest and homegrown will be one of them . Tosin and VDV probably.
 
dudu said:
My list could go on too - a big transfer fee doesn't give you a 75-80% chance of the player being a success like you are making out.
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Players price is dictated by what the market will pay.

The market will pay more if more clubs are confident that the player is less of a gamble.

It’s always a gamble but the chances of a 70/90m player being successful are likely higher than a 50/60m player,

My feeling is actually that the bracket we shop in for our “Marquee”!signings (40-60m) actually presents the worst risk/reward ratio of all.

The big boy clubs know that only the really financially able/committed owners will go as high as 70-90m so they push the prices for the very best talents up to that range so they keep them and stay ahead.
 
enfield1985 said:
What do people think is realistic fees we can receive for our deadwood:

This is my attempt:
Lloris - Free
Dier - £3M
Sanchez - £7-10M
Tanganga - £15M
Davies - £3-5M
NDombele - £10-15M
Lo Celso - £10-15M
Sergio Reguilon £10-15M
Ivan Perisic - Free
Ryan Sessegnon - £8-12 M

So max we can expect in is £100M and that is if we are very lucky and manage to get all the players out the door. The fact is we pay most these players too highly for them to leave.
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Out of that list the only ones I think we could possibly get some money for are Sanchez and le celso the rest will either stay, leave on a free of go out on loan
 
Got some itk


Who: Hotspur88
When: 3rd July
Where: SC

We are talking to both clubs and haven't agreed anything yet. Yes we've made more progress with VdV and it's an easier deal to do, but we haven't 100% committed to either deal yet. We need both of them and it's not out of the question, but we need a significant amount of outs. More likely we end up with one of them and then someone like Tosin. But you can't rule anything out at the moment as it's so early in the window and we don't know how many we will shift. The positive is we do have interest in several of our players so we will generate funds on top of what we had to spend. It's exciting times and rightfully so. My feeling is we get one CB over the line before we fly out and then the second will be later on in the window if we can shift a few.


Please dont thank me.
 
Brian Fantana said:
I’ve a feeling that exactly what we will be trying to do this summer. It’s partly why the scum are now able to spank £100 million on Rice. Getting rid of Abaumayang et al has freed up a lot of committed cash. Mind you, they’ve just given it the Havertz so hopefully they haven’t completely learnt their lesson!
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I was hoping the Havertz deal would go through. Even if he does quite well, they have much bigger priority positions that need strengthening. Still better than us though.
 
enfield1985 said:
What do people think is realistic fees we can receive for our deadwood:

This is my attempt:
Lloris - Free
Dier - £3M
Sanchez - £7-10M
Tanganga - £15M
Davies - £3-5M
NDombele - £10-15M
Lo Celso - £10-15M
Sergio Reguilon £10-15M
Ivan Perisic - Free
Ryan Sessegnon - £8-12 M

So max we can expect in is £100M and that is if we are very lucky and manage to get all the players out the door. The fact is we pay most these players too highly for them to leave.
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Lloris = yes
Dier = yes
Sanchez = a little more
Tanganga = less
Davies = a little more
Ndombele = won't find buyer due to wage
Lo Celse = yes
Reguillon = less
Perisic = yes
Sessegnon = probably loan



and Rodon around 7m.
 
Starks said:
I heard he's going to be on 330k.

A WEEK

Mental. That guy is fufu

Transfer fees aren't the reason we're not competing. It's how much wages have exploded. Ffs, he's on nearly double what we offer Harry Kane.
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True. But I am surprised how much clubs will pay for players with a year or less left on their contract. It’s barely making an impact on deals for these players. For example rice & mount. To me that’s their valuation with a few years left on their contract.
But I guess if you really want the player & he will make you that much better, then an extra 20/30m is a small price to pay. If it goes wrong then….
 
Starks said:
Can't help but feel this sort of attitude prevented us from getting promising players like Kim and Kvara because of their name and lack of top level experience. Both went on to transform a Napoli team and win them their first Scudetto in over 30 years.

If our manager thinks van de Ven is suited to making us better and is what we need, so be it. This isn't a Lenglet situation where a defender is just being thrust upon a coach for value.
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I think we need both, a mix of cool calm experience and promising youth.

Right now our defence is looking highly inexperienced with vdv, porro, and udogie.
Romero doesn't have the mindset to be a leader.

Yes, we should have bought Kim over no CB at all, but even better would have been a Skriniar.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Watching woolwich this window, revenue doesn’t decide who is the most aggressive with their spending but you also probably know that Levy/ENIC could invest more into transfers but just won’t
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If it worked you could let it go. But we buy some crap bargain bucket players then are shocked they are crap! Imagine a list of all the cheap signings we got that failed.
 
Kane you believe it said:
Let's not pretend spend isn't incredibly correlated with success
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During the transfer window = spending isn’t correlated with success.
During the season when our signings fail & we are crap = We can’t compete with the big spenders. Oil rich this, Arab rich that.
City win the treble = it means nothing. Pep is just a chequebook manager. They have bought success.
 
scott said:
If it worked you could let it go. But we buy some crap bargain bucket players then are shocked they are crap! Imagine a list of all the cheap signings we got that failed.
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I listened to the TFC podcast with the protest guys and they made a very valid point about this:

If it’s about real estate like training ground, stadium, hotels etc they will only accept the best. No matter what they have to borrow to get it. They refuse to cut corners or accept anything but be best.

They have NEVER been like that with the playing staff.
 
Kane you believe it said:
I agree, but if we consider absolute gross spend, Chelsea, City, man utd, and Woolwich are above us over past 5 years. 3 of those have won major trophies in last 5 years.

It's both.

My only point is that I agree with those who believe spurs are not undergoing the promised transformation expected after building the stadium. Our on field ambitions and likely upcoming results appear to remain the same.

Van de ven is young and promising. But you don't see teams like City or even liverpool buying a young and promising cb as a marquee centre half in a leaky defence.
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We are spending this summer like we are a 5th-8th based team. & that’s where we will probably end up.
 
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