• The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...

    Get involved!

Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)

Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports

Rate this window out of 10

  • 1

  • 2

  • 3

  • 4

  • 5

  • 6

  • 7

  • 8

  • 9

  • 10


Results are only viewable after voting.


Not sure if serious, but given Felix valuation (Atletico allegedly paid £113m for him), I can't see Felix coming for more than a year or two on loan...... unless they are happy to take a couple of our discards as well as Hojbjerg - Ndombele and Lo Celso for example to make up the financia;l difference ?

What does "perfect player to compliment Son, Maddison and Kane" really mean? He plays in the position as Son and Kane but he's not an OMF like Maddison. And would Spurs really spend that much money on a "compliment" player? Don't think so.
 


Not sure if serious, but given Felix valuation (Atletico allegedly paid £113m for him), I can't see Felix coming for more than a year or two on loan...... unless they are happy to take a couple of our discards as well as Hojbjerg - Ndombele and Lo Celso for example to make up the financia;l difference ?

Cracking Up Lol GIF by HULU



No No No No NO! NO! Not happening.
 
For over 20 years ENIC have always looked for bargains instead of setting up and heavily invest on a proper scouting and analytics team which could have helped the club addressing issues like identifying right players to improve the team a lot better.

Bargain hunting is double edged sword, for every Berbatov there's Pekhart.

Things have been getting slightly better though since Paratici arrival, he seems like the only guy who has managed to get Levy to do what he says half the time.
This "bargain hunting" theory simply isn't true. Not anymore. It's a relic of the pre-Bale Spurs which very much looked for cheap young players to develop and sell at a profit. But that M.O. does a decade ago. Since then we've spent:

2013: €30M Soldado and €30 Lamela. This €60M was the more that any PL club spent on 2 players other than United (€66M for Fernandinho and Jovetic)

2015: €30M on Son, which was the 3rd most expensive transfer of the summer aside from the Manchestee clubs. At the two Liverpool transfers that trumped it were Benteke and Firmino, which got a lot of praise at the time but were poor deals retrospectively.

2016: €35M on Sissoko (oof), which outside of Manchester was joint 5th highest behind Xhaka (€45M, lol), Mustafi (€41M, lol), Mane (€41M), and Batshuayi (€39M, lol)

2017: €42M on Sanchez plus €53M combined for Moura and Aurier. Outside of Manchester there were 4 players more expensive than Sanchez; van Djik (€85M), Morata (€66M), Aubemayang (€64M, lol), and Lacazette (€53M, lol)

2018: Well this is the problem.

2019: €62M on Ndombele, €30M on Bergwijn, €27M on Sessegnon. Outside of Manchester there was only 1 transfer more expensive than Ndombele: Pepe (€80M, JFC lol). Only clubs signing 3 players over €25M: Woolwich (Pepe, Saliba, and Tierney), United (Maguire, Fernandes, Wan-Bissaka), and Everton (Iwobi, Kean, and Gomes)

2020: €32M on GLC and €30M Reggie. Outside of City and Chelsea (who turned the doping back into high gear with Havertz, Werner, Chilwell, and Ziyech for €223M), only Partey+Gabriel (€66M) and Jota+Thiago (€67M) were a more expensive pair.

2021: €69M combined on Gil, Royal, and Betancur. Admittedly a weak transfer group, but this was a weak transfer year for everyone due to Covid. Liverpool spent €87M on Diaz+Konate. Woolwich spent €121M on White+Odegaard+Ramsdale. Chelsea threw away €113M on Lukaku which seems like spending for the sake of it in retrospect. United spent €125M on Sancho and Varane. City bought Grealish for €113M

2022: €108M on Richarlison+Romero, €30M on Bissouma. Aside from SaudiLondon back on the dope, only SaudiNorth (€152M for Isak+Gordon+Botman) and United (€223M for Anthony+Casemiro+Martinez) had a more expensive trio


The problem is that most of those listed were major busts for us. Soldado, Lamela, Sissoko, Sanchez, Aurier, Moura, Ndombele, Bergwijn, Sessegnon, GLC, Reggie, Gil, and Richarlison cost this club €431M.

It hasn't been because we're cheap and bargain hunting. It's because we've been very, very, very bad at scouting.
 
Kid is that good.

It’s an overpay, obviously.

That’s what it would take to get him to Spurs from Chelsea.

60m Colwill
45m Tapsoba

Seriously rebuilding the squad to win long term.

If we end up with

35m VdV
45m Tapsoba

It could end up just as good but you are paying less because you don’t get a homegrown spine in your team
still growing, huge risk with him.

Thought he looked out of coordination in spells this tournament, are you old enough to recall Wes Brown at 18/19?

That boy had it all, young players of the season (I think), but strongly think playing too much too early, at CB in particular when you are up again some of the most suited athletes in the world (heavier frames grinding young if any slight growth issue… Wes Brown).
 
Exactly.

The problem at Spurs is that we seek deals not footballers and a valuable book of assets not a squad.

Which is a derivative problem from the core one: We are a business project not a sporting one.

You can, and if you want to succeed must, be both.
That doesn't prove the point you're trying to make.

We didn't sign Ndombele, Sanchez, etc. etc. because they were valuable assets for the book. They were highly lauded transfers. Ndombele had been drooled over here on TFC for a year prior to us signing him.

We've tried to sign footballers and fucking blew it. Stop looking for shadows to blame everything on - we've been exceptionally shit at scouting, that's what's been the problem.
 
Back
Top