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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)

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Sir Archibald Crooks said:
Still not having it that he's got any future here. Those reports yesterday seemed a bit iffy.
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I agree, though I guess we'd all love to be proven wrong and, somehow, Ange does his "whisperer" trick to unlock the massive potential this guy has.

Well most of us would love to be proven wrong I guess...

I'm not convinced he will, but if he does, I'm taking a few crates of water down to Hotspur Way so he can turn them all into wine.
 
Zomb said:
You are living in the past during a time when clubs in Spain, Italy had money. They have now better scouting and data now meaning these frauds aren’t wanted, previously even bottom half PL clubs would pay up but not now. They know this fool can’t stand up let alone defend

I work in Finance and the biggest drain on our money is our ridiculous wage bill. One third of our Opex is being spent on players that are shit and have no future (c.75M down the drain annually). Far more important to hack that down, rather than quibble about 9M vs 15M which will spread over four years anyway
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I didn't agree with your evaluation of Sanchez, but I do agree with your main point.

If his wages are greater than £4M per year, it's only common sense to get him off the books for whatever the amount is.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't put a £15M price tag on him though. It's not extortionate, we could always be negotiated down to somewhere in the middle, or stating £15M could even trigger other interested parties.

He wouldn't be the first player that other manager have looked at and thought "I can get a tune out of him," so they may even see £15M as a bargain.

When you have Championship players being touted at £30M, £15M for an established international suddenly looks like a bargain.

Regardless, if he's not in the manager's plans, and he no longer wants to stay here, then we need to take the best price we're offered, which isn't necessarily the first one.
 
SouthCoastSpur said:
And didn't Porro sleep with his girlfriend or something similar?? Can't see any problems there :ange-hmm:
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Well we need players "fighting" for their place, don't we?

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Sir Archibald Crooks said:
You really hate competition for places dont you. I have no idea why you feel the need to manage and talk down fairly modest expectations on behalf of the club. My point was If Hojbjerg goes we need a replacement. With Postecoglou playing 3 in midfield you'd be going in with 4 midfielders for the first 3 months of the season and one of them is the unproven Sarr..
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I think Sarr will prove a lot of doubters wrong, the kid has oodles of talent, but I get where you're coming from.

The club will decide based on how well Bentancur is recovering. He's back running already, so he may be one that recovers well. I'm not convinced he's going to miss the first 3 months of the season, but then I'm not part of the medical team, so that could just be speculative optimism.
 
MemphisWill said:
That doesn't prove the point you're trying to make.

We didn't sign Ndombele, Sanchez, etc. etc. because they were valuable assets for the book. They were highly lauded transfers. Ndombele had been drooled over here on TFC for a year prior to us signing him.

We've tried to sign footballers and fucking blew it. Stop looking for shadows to blame everything on - we've been exceptionally shit at scouting, that's what's been the problem.
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There's no doubt our scouting has been poor at times, and wretchedly poor during the critical period where it all fell apart for us.

But the way a non-sporting cynicism and commitment to superficial shrewdness has infected and constrained our transfer process is inextricable from our inability to choose the right players to move us forward. The two go hand in hand, you can't say it's one or the other.

In 2007 you could be a cynical cheapskate bean counter and outsmart the superstitious rubes of English football in the transfer market.

Now you can't, the market has gotten hugely and rapidly smarter, and from the moment that began happening Tottenham's transfer market fortunes sunk like a stone.

There is effort happening to mitigate that right now. Relatively sincere effort, with a modicum of success to show for it. I don't want to be a hack here. But Levy's worldview will never, ever change, making it all ultimately fruit of a poisonous tree.
 
Zest said:
still growing, huge risk with him.

Thought he looked out of coordination in spells this tournament, are you old enough to recall Wes Brown at 18/19?

That boy had it all, young players of the season (I think), but strongly think playing too much too early, at CB in particular when you are up again some of the most suited athletes in the world (heavier frames grinding young if any slight growth issue… Wes Brown).
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Huge risk?

Sounds a bit dramatic
 
I don't know what Joao Felix people think they have seen but he's a really good player, he signed for the wrong team in Atletico and has been playing under a defensive minded coach and when he went to a shit Chelsea where are very player was poor, he'd find his way under an attacking/expressive coach.
 
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