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Genuinely think the plan is x2 CBs and one HG.

Van de Ven 30m
Tosin 20m

Then the writing is on the wall for Dier. if he stays, he knows that he’s 5th choice.

If Dier goes they maybe get a 3rd CB and it’s probably Lenglet
In whichever way you look at we just don’t need lengket. His not good enough fir what we need and in long term will be hard to shift. We really ought to be promoting from wiithin or look at young up and coming players where they’re or abroad. Cast the net wide South America Portugal, scandi, etc and not just a few eu countries.
 
In whichever way you look at we just don’t need lengket. His not good enough fir what we need and in long term will be hard to shift. We really ought to be promoting from wiithin or look at young up and coming players where they’re or abroad. Cast the net wide South America Portugal, scandi, etc and not just a few eu countries.
IMO, the ideal solution would be to bring in both tapsoba and vdv, and use the academy kid who's supposed to be really good as a backup.

Romero, Tapsoba, VDV, Dier and academy kid whose name I suddenly can't remember should be enough. Forget Lenglet.
 
Listen, I know you also think you know everything about every player on the planet and pitch yourself as some kind of judge when it comes to people's opinions on players.

But I couldn't give less of a fuck.

Football is a bit of fun for me. I'm a fan and I enjoy speculating and chatting shit. I'm not coming at this as some kind of expert.

I'm on a chat forum saying I watched a lot of Brighton, in fact they are the team I watch the most after Spurs and I really rate Colwill.

If I was seriously getting work as an analyst when it comes to recruiting players, I'd have more information than is publicly available and more than likely wouldn't be sharing my views on TFC forum (unless I wanted to influence fan sentiment on a player).

If you have your expert opinion on which players are good, I'm happy for you. But patronising people on a chat forum and calling them "excitable", saying that in comparison to your lofty opinions, they are "blind enthusiasm" just makes you come off as a twat.
Wind your neck in, pal. I didn't insult you, nor did I claim to be an expert. I just said 65mil for Colwill is ridiculous.

If that's how you react when one disagrees with you, perhaps don't come on a football forum.
 
Fair point(s)

Spurs aren’t high enough in the picking order to buy a surer thing. That’s the reality.

Toby wasn’t a sure thing and neither was Jan.

At 24, Tapsoba is extremely polished I feel and is ready to make the jump. VDV is more of a project, but I can’t turn my nose up at at what is an extremely promising set of attributes.

If you buy only ready made players, then honestly, what is the point of having a coach?
 
Don’t give a shit about disagreeing. Enjoy that tbh.

Your post was patronizing.
You just didn't like the fact I pointed out you get overexcited about transfers, which you do...but did I say it makes you a bad TFC contributor? No I didn't. I even said I liked your enthusiasm, even though you admitted yourself to not knowing much about them players, not having watched much of them...hence the word blind.

But fine if you wanna be all sensitive about it, despite claiming the opposite on a separate post...call me patronising and say I bragged when I didn't, it's cool.

You have a good one, pal
 
Barnes is known quantity, everyone knows how he and still could be in the prem.


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That doesn't prove the point you're trying to make.

We didn't sign Ndombele, Sanchez, etc. etc. because they were valuable assets for the book. They were highly lauded transfers. Ndombele had been drooled over here on TFC for a year prior to us signing him.

We've tried to sign footballers and fucking blew it. Stop looking for shadows to blame everything on - we've been exceptionally shit at scouting, that's what's been the problem.

Richarlison is another that doesn't fit the theory.... Soldado..... Sissoko.... Likewise.

We spent 45m+ euro on Porro cos we expected him to become significiantly more pricey? Nah; I don't see it there either.....
 
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This "bargain hunting" theory simply isn't true. Not anymore. It's a relic of the pre-Bale Spurs which very much looked for cheap young players to develop and sell at a profit. But that M.O. does a decade ago. Since then we've spent:

2013: €30M Soldado and €30 Lamela. This €60M was the more that any PL club spent on 2 players other than United (€66M for Fernandinho and Jovetic)

2015: €30M on Son, which was the 3rd most expensive transfer of the summer aside from the Manchestee clubs. At the two Liverpool transfers that trumped it were Benteke and Firmino, which got a lot of praise at the time but were poor deals retrospectively.

2016: €35M on Sissoko (oof), which outside of Manchester was joint 5th highest behind Xhaka (€45M, lol), Mustafi (€41M, lol), Mane (€41M), and Batshuayi (€39M, lol)

2017: €42M on Sanchez plus €53M combined for Moura and Aurier. Outside of Manchester there were 4 players more expensive than Sanchez; van Djik (€85M), Morata (€66M), Aubemayang (€64M, lol), and Lacazette (€53M, lol)

2018: Well this is the problem.

2019: €62M on Ndombele, €30M on Bergwijn, €27M on Sessegnon. Outside of Manchester there was only 1 transfer more expensive than Ndombele: Pepe (€80M, JFC lol). Only clubs signing 3 players over €25M: Woolwich (Pepe, Saliba, and Tierney), United (Maguire, Fernandes, Wan-Bissaka), and Everton (Iwobi, Kean, and Gomes)

2020: €32M on GLC and €30M Reggie. Outside of City and Chelsea (who turned the doping back into high gear with Havertz, Werner, Chilwell, and Ziyech for €223M), only Partey+Gabriel (€66M) and Jota+Thiago (€67M) were a more expensive pair.

2021: €69M combined on Gil, Royal, and Betancur. Admittedly a weak transfer group, but this was a weak transfer year for everyone due to Covid. Liverpool spent €87M on Diaz+Konate. Woolwich spent €121M on White+Odegaard+Ramsdale. Chelsea threw away €113M on Lukaku which seems like spending for the sake of it in retrospect. United spent €125M on Sancho and Varane. City bought Grealish for €113M

2022: €108M on Richarlison+Romero, €30M on Bissouma. Aside from SaudiLondon back on the dope, only SaudiNorth (€152M for Isak+Gordon+Botman) and United (€223M for Anthony+Casemiro+Martinez) had a more expensive trio


The problem is that most of those listed were major busts for us. Soldado, Lamela, Sissoko, Sanchez, Aurier, Moura, Ndombele, Bergwijn, Sessegnon, GLC, Reggie, Gil, and Richarlison cost this club €431M.

It hasn't been because we're cheap and bargain hunting. It's because we've been very, very, very bad at scouting.
Bargain hunting was still a thing until Paratici joined the club.

Bergwijn, Sessegnon, Lucas, even Reguilon were all recent opportunistic signings that were bought by ENIC not necessarily to address first team weaknesses. They were bought because the selling club were happy to move those players on and there was potential their values could double or triple if they had a couple of good seasons at the club.


For example in January 2020, we desperately desperately needed a DM and CF as Wanyama was physically done and Kane got injured on NYE.

ENIC instead spent 30m on a winger from Eredivisie because he was available and there was a potential he could become a 80/90 million player In 2/3 seasons.
 
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I actually agreed with this. There may be hope for you, after all.
you don’t have to be a cunt all the time, maybe theres a hope for you too as well
I wonder if Carl Johnson Carl Johnson is actually two different people. It's quite remarkable how they can go from posting very reasonable stuff, to absolute drivel.
I’m consistent as it gets on TFC
 
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