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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)

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LeParisien said:
If you can do it for one season in the Belgian league then you’re worth 30m? Come on mate, no one serious believes that. There’s no way you think he has « every attribute you want in a forward » at a top class level. You’ve probably never seen him play.

There is a lot of risk with this kind of signing and he could be amazing or he could be Vincent Janssen. Gent’s price needs to reflect that. We don’t need more Sessegnons clogging up the squad thanks.
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Whats your plan? 130m for Ferguson? Lewandowski on a 4 year deal?
 
dondo said:
I was making my own quote actually 😂
What am I a fucking scout. We pay a network of people a small fortune to do that.
As Ange has said that we knew Kane was going, why have we not got anyone lined up that is better than an outside punt?
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Because there's no plan and it's all reactive. We will only get a striker in and that will be it.
 
The truth of the matter is, in the modern market you pay more money on "potential" then you do on established players. Clubs pay for what a player could be rather then what he is at the moment. Thats why someone like Joao Felix got sold for 120M when he was at Benfica. Thats why Real Madrid are paying 50M for a 16 year old Endrick who has barely even produced for the first team of Palmeiras yet. The same way they did for Vinicious Jr and Rodrygo.

Granted they have been very successful with it thus far but naturally their will be misses as well. Regardless that is how todays market works.Hype and Potential generates more income and garnish a bigger paycheck to acquire.
 
Thin Lilywhite Duke said:
Feels like a google translate issue.

I'd assume 'those who lit up' probably refers to us (i.e. lighting up the phone line making an enquiry?)

Dr House Idk GIF
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Should have gone to Bill Madrid Language Services.

No job too big or small.

Fast. Reliable. Cheap.
 
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LisbonLion1906 said:
In todays market? yes. Especially for a EPL club like Spurs who are very well equipped financially. For Sporting for example its an enormous risk but for you guys not so much. 30M is pennies in todays market.

As you said, maybe he turns into Daka.

Or

He goes to one of Ajax, Sporting, Benfica, Dortmund, Brighton does insanely well and now if you want him your going to have to pay 100M. Just look at what Evan Ferguson would cost if you wanted to get him for Brighton. He has shown nothing to be worth a high valuation yet but I have no doubt he would cost 100M.

I can't predict if he will be great or not, but for 30M I believe its Worth a punt. The potential is clearly there. He has finishing ability that you don't teach especially in someone so young.

Goncalo Ramos just went for 80M to PSG and I believe Orban would score more goals than Ramos did if he played for Benfica.
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Patson Daka cost €30m and scored 4 goals. You’re saying that in this market it would be money well spent of Orban achieved the same?

Wow.

If only I believed you.
 
Zomb said:
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Whats your plan? 130m for Ferguson? Lewandowski on a 4 year deal?
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I already said my plan.

LeParisien said:
I think 30 for Orban is too high for someone with his experience and level. Just one season in a top flight league? Janssen had a similarly impressive output given he was in a harder league.

I’d say 20 + 15 in add ons. Maybe 5 of those for scoring 10 goals, another 5 if he hits 30 goals, and 5 if we qualify for the CL in the next 2 seasons. That would be fair and recognise the risk. If he can’t score 10 goals for us in his career then he’s not even worth 20m!
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Otherwise I’d concentrate on a wide forward. Eze for 60m, Kolo Muani if possible… someone else ?
 
LeParisien said:
Patson Daka cost €30m and scored 4 goals. You’re saying that in this market it would be money well spent of Orban achieved the same?

Wow.

If only I believed you.
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Obviously it would be bad business if that was the case but at 30M there is a. much lower risk for potentially a very high reward.

Additionally I have no doubt their would be some EPL club that was just promoted that would likely pay you the same amount you spent on him.

Look at solanka as just one example.

I mean bloody hell United paid 80M for one of the worst defenders in the league and they won't get anywhere near that money back. 30M is worth the risk.

Also not for nothing but Orban looks a much much better prospect then Daka ever did.
 
LisbonLion1906 said:
Obviously it would be bad business if that was the case but at 30M there is a. much lower risk for potentially a very high reward.

Additionally I have no doubt their would be some EPL club that was just promoted that would likely pay you the same amount you spent on him.

Look at solanka as just one example.

I mean bloody hell United paid 80M for one of the worst defenders in the league and they won't get anywhere near that money back. 30M is worth the risk.

Also not for nothing but Orban looks a much much better prospect then Daka ever did.
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I don’t think pointing to bad signings like Maguire and Solanke as a reference point really help your argument. They are reasons to be cautious about spending big money.

I’m not against Orban, I just think 20m should be the base fee and anything more should be tied up in performance related add ons so the risk is shared. If Orban can’t perform for an attacking side in the PL then his maximum value is about 20m - no club in another league is spending more on him.

Note that we are the only club that seems to be in for him. No big club is sniffing around and the Dortmunds, Leipzigs and Benficas of this world don’t seem to be seriously interested either.
 
Everton paid 15M for Youssef Chermiti from Sporting. He scored 3 goals in 14 games and did nothing to warrant that kind of fee. He most likely will flop over there I reckon.

For just 15M more you get Orban. Think about that.
 
LeParisien said:
I don’t think pointing to bad signings like Maguire and Solanke as a reference point really help your argument. They are reasons to be cautious about spending big money.

I’m not against Orban, I just think 20m should be the base fee and anything more should be tied up in performance related add ons so the risk is shared.

Note that we are the only club that seems to be in for him. No big club is sniffing around and the Dortmunds, Leipzigs and Benficas of this world don’t seem to be seriously interested either.
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I think 20M that can reach 30M with objectives is a fair deal mate. I won't argue against that. My point is just saying that for a EPL club 30M is not that "big" of a loss, In my opinion (I could be wrong).

To be fair to your last point Brighton got Caicedo and no clubs were interested and now they sold him for 100M.
 
those against Orban. If we won’t go for £30m potential strikers do you think the club should go £100m for the likes of Ferguson and then not spend much on defence or wing.
 
If Ndombele and Hojberg leave there is an outside chance we might consider making a 65 mill offer for Eze. His agents Base need to apply a bit of pressure on Palace though to get the deal done at that price. Will be difficult though
 
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