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I like Bissouma, a LOT. I also think he’s getting the usual hype-job on here. Caicedo is also fantastic, different players. Wouldn’t know who is definitively better personally.

But other clubs were interested in him. The dodgy rumours surrounding a court case were reportedly what put other teams off and we jumped at it.

There’s no such issues with Orban and imo if there was this no brainer wonder-talent people on here keep referring to them you’d have a much longer list of rivals for the signature. This guy isn’t under the radar, he’s scored 4 goals in a European game.
Don’t think I agree about the Bissouma hype job to be honest. He’s genuinely a great player, who was just wasted last year, which makes it easy to forget how good he was at Brighton.
 
I've not seen a single minute of him. But my instincts are to doubt it when people who definitely don't watch much of the Belgian League are convinced this guy is some sort of future superstar & a must have but apparently only Spurs have noticed this and even then only if he's below 30m. Which these days is the price you pay for a striker who might get you 10 non penalty goals in the league.

None of which means he isn't great, but the doubts are obviously there as 100% all the elite clubs will have had scouts watching this guy.
Your premise is wrong. He's been linked to both Atletico and Lille, though Lille see him as Jonathan David's replacement so they're not pulling the trigger until he's sold.
 
Like I said after Kane left, people need to prepare themselves for an ultimate Levy screw job rather then assuming we have 100m to spend.

I'd lean towards us signing a player or 2 but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we signed nobody (or some desperate loan).
 
Like I said after Kane left, people need to prepare themselves for an ultimate Levy screw job rather then assuming we have 100m to spend.

I'd lean towards us signing a player or 2 but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we signed nobody (or some desperate loan).
That is exactly what I'm expecting, a classic merry dance, to find out on the last day, that our business is done.
Ange is going to find out what, being the manager of Tottenham is all about.
 
Fantasy football every transfer window. We have care no less players that needs to f off first.

Get off the back of Levy, he keeping us afloat. We better instill f mentality to these kids, moment we score we lose all the f focus. The kids in academy we got haven't got their chance to chance.

Play the likes of Celso / ndombele / sessegnon in some cup games to advertise these player in the transfer windows. Flog them to Saudi

Start playing youth since spurs hasn't been making enough money, haven't seen us make profit except Kane and Wimmer. For us to pay over the odds for Connor or Micky and not earn a shit from Dele isn't sustainable
Didn’t know Mister Byrite did underwear , thought it was just cheap suits
 
Santini talked about being betrayed in the 2004 /2005 season . He quit after 13 games , maybe Ange will be more patient but I suspect by end of his first transfer window he will have a strong indication of how the club operates. Nothing has changed in our MO in 23 years , we have spent more recently to repair self inflicted wounds of not spending at all. It was not part of any well thought out football strategy , it was , wow we have messed up and a knee jerk flailing around . All only my opinion but I am far from alone in having zero confidence Ange won’t be let down
 
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Like I said after Kane left, people need to prepare themselves for an ultimate Levy screw job rather then assuming we have 100m to spend.

I'd lean towards us signing a player or 2 but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we signed nobody (or some desperate loan).

Well, we have spent HALF A BILLION on players in the last 3 seasons. That is more than any other non-champions league team and, puts us as the 5th highest spender behind....United, Woolwich, Chelsea and the Toon.

Clearly not enough money spent for some fans.

In the last 2 seasons along we have pretty much replaced ALL of our squad.

 
Well, we have spent HALF A BILLION on players in the last 3 seasons. That is more than any other non-champions league team and, puts us as the 5th highest spender behind....United, Woolwich, Chelsea and the Toon.

Clearly not enough money spent for some fans.

In the last 2 seasons along we have pretty much replaced ALL of our squad.

We were a Champions League team , for some of that period, it was Woolwich and Newcastle that wasn’t
 
Toney is the one I want. Wonder whether it would be in our interest to buy him now and Brentford can bring in the replacement now? I would take that and give the current attack 20 games until Jan
 
As I said, it is a direct reflection of the assessed value, meaning the assessed financial value, of the competitions. And that's all the people who control these clubs (FSG, ENIC, Clearlake, etc.) care about.

I very much welcome an explanation of how the Bosman ruling and European regulations will prevent the existence of a closed system ESL. Honestly interested in that potential justification - it's way more meaningful and potentially useful than "it will upset people".
The dirrerences in valuation are not due to being in a closed system but the monopolistic activities that are allowed in the US and won't be in European football.

Firstly NFL will never have to build a stadium that must add a billion or so, NFL can use monopoly power to set wages again not available in europe even if they take up the us model. The cost is a directreflection of profitability, the same conditions are not there nor ever will in European football closed system or not. Even things like ability to act as a franchise, setting blanket sky high ticket prices would likely to be regulated away meaning the same profit margins still are not there in a closed system.

3 times as many people watch CL final compared to the Super Bowl, football is successful

You're comparing apples and oranges.
 
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Like I said after Kane left, people need to prepare themselves for an ultimate Levy screw job rather then assuming we have 100m to spend.

I'd lean towards us signing a player or 2 but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we signed nobody (or some desperate loan).
Seeing as the bald prick has hired two execs that are either pending prison or on extended gardening leave, leaving us without any football management structure, I’m cool with us developing a plan over time and not panic buying again
 
You're conflating transfer fees and salary (and "other").

Borussia Dortmund received 50m (wasn't it more like 60?), the value of Haaland's release clause.

Every big club in the world was lining up to do the same. City paid all sorts to get to the front of that queue. That all counts in FFP terms, but not in net transfer spend terms.
There's no conflating going on here. By the time it's all said and done, the package City pay will be well beyond the means of almost every club outside of Saudi Arabia and Real Madrid.
 
I’m not even joking if you put Haaland in there for Richy it wouldn’t have made much of a difference in the structure of our attack.

Son and Kulusevski being utterly unable to go past a man or go wide on their weak foot effectively makes them the most predictable and easy to defend pair of wingers in the league. They can’t go wide and that's incredibly easy for PL sides, we saw that with Brentford’s compact shape Sunday.

A top winger opens up our entire offense. A top striker who isn’t also an amazing playmaker and not dependent on service (aka not Kane) wouldn’t change as much as you’d think.
I wonder what the plan is. Son is captain and we've just made Kulu permanent. Either Ange adapts his system or we'll have a whole season of this. I expect we'll see Son up top in some games with Solomon and Porro on the wings. Either way, an upgrade is needed in that area. Proper competition for Kulu would be good
 
I’m not even joking if you put Haaland in there for Richy it wouldn’t have made much of a difference in the structure of our attack.

Son and Kulusevski being utterly unable to go past a man or go wide on their weak foot effectively makes them the most predictable and easy to defend pair of wingers in the league. They can’t go wide and that's incredibly easy for PL sides, we saw that with Brentford’s compact shape Sunday.

A top winger opens up our entire offense. A top striker who isn’t also an amazing playmaker and not dependent on service (aka not Kane) wouldn’t change as much as you’d think.

If Son and Kulu can't go outside on their weaker foot, I can't see why we wouldn't switch them occasionally. Seems daft to stick rigidly to one sided players on one side.
 
Think we are going to sign someone today or tomorrow. Or if not,another day in the remainder of the window.
Or we may decide,to stick with the squad and maybe use some of the younger players and make no more signings.

Just a feeling I've got...

#tier1
 
Nope, when you sell a player you take the transfer fee less the carrying value of the player and that is recognised in that accounting period as a profit/loss on disposal.
So let's say Havertz was originally bought for 60m on a 5 year contract (I can't be arsed to look up exact figures) and was 3 years in to the contract, his carrying value would be 60m less 3 years of 12m amortisation costs= 24mill. When they sold him to Woolwich for 60mill ish then they recognise that profit on disposal of 36mill there and then.
Mount has a zero carrying value as he was an academy profit. So the full transfer fee from United was an instant profit.
They're using those in-period profits to offset the amortisation of their mad spending spree, the latter which they can spread over the long contract lengths.
They will get caught out if they can't get profits on disposal by selling their assets in future, like with Mount and Havertz. They are reliant on having not bought duds really!
It is a huge risk, that much is obvious.
Look, I appreciate you took the time to write this all down, but I am beyond fucking sick of the amateur accountants repeating this time after time...

It's a fucking bookkeeping quirk that allows them to skirt by the supposed FFP rules.

It's a technicality.

They are committed to ~£1b of transfer spend, in the same time they have received ~£200m in sales. BOTH lots of sums are being paid/received over a period of years. That is the bottom line!

Just because there is a stupid loophole in the FFP rules or whatever it is that allows this, does not mean anyone beyond the most brainwashed Chav muppet should be claiming them as in fucking profit. That is like me getting a loan over the next 8 years that I am due to pay back £200 a month on, and with no other source of income claiming myself to be financially sound because I had a car boot sale this month and raked in £250... In fact, it's not even like that, because in this scenario my £250 incoming from the boot sale should be spread over 5 years too!

Not once have I ever seen anyone put forward a rational explanation for why transfers in should be considered over the duration of the contract yet transfers out, where you are receiving the money in instalments also, should be counted immediately.

I'd very much like something on that, not yet another "Well you see the transfer fee is ackshually amortised blah blah blah..." I'm pretty sure we're all well versed in that spiel by now.
 
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