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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Allejo10 said:
It may solve yes, we ain't winning a game anytime soon playing this shit, even Mason could be more creative and maybe earn us some points in the remaining fixtures.
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But then the players drop next season and we sack the next guy be it Mason or someone else. I mean I was happy for Conte to stay but clearly he wanted out. I don’t see a manager right now that is clear, Tuchel would be a 6-12 month job, Naglesmann would want too much control for Levy and we would probably have to sack Lange.
 
Incomplete_usernam said:
I happen to agree with this which is why I think even if we spend money on rebuilding for Ange it will end in disaster.

I am of the opinion that his system is flawed and the underlying philosophy and tactical foundation is the issue.

I don't think losing 4 games on the trot for the first time in 20 years along with the other statistics you have shared is a fluke or a run of "bad form".
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I said this months ago. I want to be wrong but I don't think I am. I've seen us live multiple times seen nearly every game. And I don't think this is purely the personnel issue he claims it is.
 
bk_spur said:
Or maybe just get the right manager?
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The "right" manager does need the right players though.

For too long managers have had to make do with a few gems mixed with other manager's tosh.

I think Ange has to go now, but he doesn't have all the tools to make his football work.

The question is, do you give him the money when there's so many other concerns? UNLESS you are looking for managers that have a similar attacking mindset and the players are adaptable. We've gone from open, expansive football (under Poch, without a Plan B) to defensive, turgid shite under two and a half managers. Then trying to play attacking football with many players intended for counter-attacking. And losing Kane.
 
Murphy said:
The "right" manager does need the right players though.

For too long managers have had to make do with a few gems mixed with other manager's tosh.

I think Ange has to go now, but he doesn't have all the tools to make his football work.

The question is, do you give him the money when there's so many other concerns? UNLESS you are looking for managers that have a similar attacking mindset and the players are adaptable. We've gone from open, expansive football (under Poch, without a Plan B) to defensive, turgid shite under two and a half managers. Then trying to play attacking football with many players intended for counter-attacking. And losing Kane.
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I want Marco Silva. A guy who is willing to coach bad players into being acceptable ones, somebody who hates losing, and isn’t going to fucking cry and throw his players under the bus if he doesn’t get enough money.
 
Hey everyone, new here but just wanted to say I am fully Ange out I am afraid.

I've had concerns since around Christmas time with his system, tactical inflexibility and his inability to organise a defence.

We are so so open to play against, teams don't even need to get out of second gear.

I just watched Klopp's interview and he completely exposed Ange's tactics. Just said we have lots of pointless possession but they knew as soon as they turnover the ball they are in on our goal.

Managers have worked Ange out completely. I am saying it now, if we give this guy the summer, we will write off another year at least. We will start next season exactly as we are finishing this one and may even face a relegation battle.

People seem to think we will just buy a whole new side to fit Ange's tactics but it's nonsense. Our back four basically isn't changing for next season, so what makes people think by next season we will suddently be able to keep clean sheets?

The trajectory is clear, we are going downwards. I'd sack him and do all we can to bring in Tuchel in the summer. It would be a monumental mistake to give Ange 150 million this summer. His system just won't work in the PL, we are so naive.

The first 10 games just look like a new manager bounce, riding good vibes, but it's fallen apart since then.
 
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Tomo said:
Which is who? I have seen this board turn against every single manager at one point. I have been on here I think since around Sherwood. Even Poch was 50/50 ish to be sacked maybe 60/40 in favour of booting him.
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Right now, for us- Marco Silva or DeZerbi.

No point in getting a fancy system manager if there is no chance we’ll ever back them appropriately for that kind of a philosophy.
 
Lumiere said:
Can we just rename this club to Rebuild FC and be done with it?

It's all we've been the past 5 years, rebuilds and fucking projects
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Funny cause the last 3 managers weren't hired to do that.

The last 5/6 years we've messed up massively.

This is why you gotta give Ange time, we've become so used to sacking managers at the first hurdle, we don't want to go through growing pains but the only way to grow as a club is to do exactly that.
 
Incomplete_usernam said:
I would love if he did turn it around because I want to avoid another managerial change and I actually want the club to build something behind someone we can trust.

I just have a lot of doubts he can turn it around tbh.
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I'm not going to post the same stuff I've been saying over the last three days. In over six years on the forum I don't think I've ever posted so much as I have over the last week , because, to be blunt, I am worried we are potentially making a major mistake trusting Ange with the rebuild job we obviously need.

Incomplete_usernam Incomplete_usernam Sir Archibald Crooks Sir Archibald Crooks Honest John Honest John Henry Hotspur Henry Hotspur and other Ange sceptics who want him to succeed but are unconvinced...I fear we will be proven correct on this one!
 
bk_spur said:
Right now, for us- Marco Silva or DeZerbi.

No point in getting a fancy system manager if there is no chance we’ll ever back them appropriately for that kind of a philosophy.
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De Zerbi is a system manager. He just inherited a team that fit his style as he was similar to Potter. Brighton actually had Ange as their first choice but he chose to stay at Celtic as he had only just arrived. Brighton have a style of play then get the manager that fits the style, ie they have a plan of recruitment and vision, we don’t or didn’t hence why our team fits no manager.
 
Tomo said:
They will be here 6-12 months then get sacked and it will be the next guy.
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That’s a wild guess. We don’t know how well or bad they’d do. But we’ve seen how “well” Postecoglou did. Oh bbbb but he needs players for his system. Really? And if that’s the case, what makes Postecoglou any more “special” than any other manager out there? At least the managers I named will likely try to adjust their systems to fit the current team, instead of insisting on playing the same shit system and using players who can’t make the system work.
 
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