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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
How do you hold the club accountable when Levy ultimately doesn't care? And how far do we have to hold our nerve to watch the change? It WON'T happen. Any manager will pay the price because Levy doesn't have the patience. And ultimately it's a business and and entertainment medium - the match-going fans will make things quite clear on Saturday to Ange and Levy, I'm sure.

And there are only a finite amount of things available to win, which far richer clubs than us have the monopoly on. We obviously differ on what constitutes success. I'd much prefer taking the cups more seriously and they are a more viable thing to win, but the club wants 4th.

So I’m choosing to get behind a manager instead. Let’s see if he can work a miracle where everyone else couldn’t
 
It's far too exposed defensively. As soon as we're caught out like today with Porro up the pitch all we have is 2 cbs back and it's just absolute suicide.
If anyone hasn’t noticed, our opponents are using the exact same strategies against us week in week out now- pack the box and play it wide- and it’s absolutely killing us.

That’s all on Ange
 
For the first two (winning leagues/cups), you may do well and ask your ENIC buddies like Shadyfixx, see what excuse they have up their sleeves. But this discussion is irrelevant at this point, no one expects Postecoglou to win titles or cups, so no one wants him out because he’s failed that lol…

As for the sacking, most of them were sacked because they had a terrible run of results and we played turgid football? Not sure what you’re trying to get at here.

Since we’re all for talking POVs why don’t you tell us in your next post what has made you so hopeful that next season will be definitely better than this one.

Check my other reply mate to @SirArchibaldCrooks
 
So I’m choosing to get behind a manager instead. Let’s see if he can work a miracle where everyone else couldn’t
This feels like when I watch absolute losers approach 9s and 10s in the club hoping for the best only to go back to their buddies with nothing in hand.

Hoping for miracles is a terrible way to achieve things.

“A victorious warrior wins first, and then goes to battle.” -Sun Tzu
 
If anyone hasn’t noticed, our opponents are using the exact same strategies against us week in week out now- pack the box and play it wide- and it’s absolutely killing us.

That’s all on Ange
bruh I've been saying the exact same thing since months back.

At least today he changed it and ditched the number 10...i mean it still made no difference but at least he even attempted something different.
 
This feels like when I watch absolute losers approach 9s and 10s in the club hoping for the best only to go back to their buddies with nothing in hand.

Hoping for miracles is a terrible way to achieve things.

“A victorious warrior wins first, and then goes to battle.” -Sun Tzu

I believe in the manager what else do you want me to say?

I know for a fact that sacking managers after the first rough spell doesn’t work because we have done it about 5 times in a row now.

I’m ok with the discomfort of seeing if he can bring it back to the football we know this team can play.
 
I believe in the manager what else do you want me to say?

I know for a fact that sacking managers after the first rough spell doesn’t work because we have done it about 5 times in a row now.

I’m ok with the discomfort of seeing if he can bring it back to the football we know this team can play.
Look man I’m not happy about any of this either- I just want people to be realistic instead of getting fucking hurt and clowned anymore.
 
They did fail. They failed better than Conte and Jose but still failed. Winning is binary in Sport.

Here the deal with Ange imo:

Success and development is never a straight line. We thought it would be easy because we had a hot start and then he honestly worked miracles to survive the worst injury and suspension crisis I can remember.

Just the way he’s stuck to his guns and got through that with 4 FBs and no Son or Maddison is enough for me to trust he knows what he’s doing.

The issue is that returning players somehow destabilised the team and the returning players have also been off form or burned out (Son). There’s now the issue of about 5 players that need to play but already know they aren’t needed next year (Emerson, PEH, Davies etc)

We are going through a brutally tough period and yet his principles and self belief aren’t even slightly shaken. The best coaches are stubborn to the point of arrogance and that’s exactly how I’d describe Ange. I’d love him to have fucked off the zonal marking weeks ago but he’s stubborn.

Next season he gets another pre season and another 3-4 players that came here for him. And this is my final point. Despite being benched and us getting thrashed, Maddison clearly hasn’t quit on Ange. Neither have VDV or Romero. We’ve seen it with recruiting, Ange has that ability to get buy in and deeply held belief from his players. That’s 90% of the battle.
I didnt expect a straight line of improvement, that was never going to happen. But there has barely been a sign for months of any improvement even on the shite of last season. You expect to see signs and i can pick about 4 maybe 5 games this season when we've played well. You expect that over a season even at our lowest ebb. Defensively we've not been as bad since Ossie Ardiles. They could have had 7 or 8 today without breaking sweat.

Anyway for what it worth i dont think there is any chance he'll be sacked this summer so we'll get to see who's right. I really hope i'm not but i just think it will pick up mostly where we'll leave off and it will get messy by late September/October time. I'd be very happy if my posts are being bumped and having the piss taken out of me because we're top 3 in the autumn.
 
He sacked Jol and Redknapp when they were still popular, he is normally the first to change his mind or shit his pant's. And I am not saying we should have kept Nuno but soon as the pressure was on he was off.

That being said I agree with the basic point, sacking the manager solves nothing at this point. We just end up in a new manager bounce then will need to sack the next guy in 6 months.

He was wrong to sack Jol (especially with a half time text) and Redknapp because they both offered something

Ange doesn’t

He’s a one trick pony that has been found out and isn’t willing to change

So get rid by the end of the season and start a search for a replacement and hopefully we can get it right this time!
 
I didnt expect a straight line of improvement, that was never going to happen. But there has barely been a sign for months of any improvement even on the shite of last season. You expect to see signs and i can pick about 4 maybe 5 games this season when we've played well. You expect that over a season even at our lowest ebb. Defensively we've not been as bad since Ossie Ardiles.

Anyway for what it worth i dont think there is any chance he'll be sacked this summer so we'll get to see who's right. I really hope i'm not but i just think it will pick up mostly where we'll leave off and it will get messy by late September/October time. I'd be very happy if my posts are being bumped and having the piss taken out of me because we're top 3 in the autumn.

Since the first ten games we’ve actually regressed and ok there’s been a few injuries but you adapt

Ange can’t

It’s his way or the highway
 
Look man I’m not happy about any of this either- I just want people to be realistic instead of getting fucking hurt and clowned anymore.

What’s realistic though?

Sacking a manager because the team hit its first real rough patch?

People talk about the first 10 games but the way Ange got us playing our football and winning games with 4 FBs, no midfield and Son away at Asiacup was EASILY the most impressive period of the season.

If that don’t realistically encourage you that this coach has something different about him, I realistically don’t know what will.
 
I can’t even wear my goddamn Spurs hat anymore as our record is too poor against our rivals to want to deal with the public humiliation.

I fucking love that hat and I’m fucking tired of not being able to wear it.

Why don’t you post a photo of you wearing it on here?

Just the hat mind!!


We won’t laugh 🤭

Pwomise!!
 
Guy is just deluded. All he talks about is playing football. We conceding 3s and 4s every game. Not a single mention of trying to defend or keep a clean sheet. He's got to go.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7EtWP-L-8g

I admire the fact that, he believes in his system, but at what price to the team and club.
I seem to remember when, Ossie was in the hot seat, he had this philosophy of encouraging his players to play, play, play.
This was fine when, they were afforded time and space, but as soon as the opposition forced around the turnover, they would fall apart like crepe paper the same as now.
I think because of the slightly negative counter attacking football both Conte and José played, this has put pressure on "getting our Tottenham back".
But getting "our Tottenham back" for me, doesn't mean losing every week with naïve football philosophy.
 
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