Rough patches dont last 27 games (if we include our 2 turgid FA cup games). Thats nigh on a seasons worth of tangible evidence. Thats more time than Sherwood got and Santini and Nuno combined and in that timeframe he has a worse ppg than Sherwood (by a lot) and Nuno. Just beats Santini though!
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Foundations of Ange ball:
Pressing and winning the ball ball high. Been one of the best teams in the league 90% of the season.
Making players believe in themselves and getting bodies forward to attack instead of cowering in deep blocks. We’ve seen that belief even at the very darkest moments of the season.
Unlike wispy washy quick sand , Plan B bollox, having principles and sticking to them at the worst moments. That’s a foundation as well and we have seen that all season too.
Results have been shit the last 4 and performances inconsistent even longer than that. But the principles have been rock solid all year.
Simply needs to beat Burnley and then Sheff Utd.
Nothing else matters.
A lot of people talking their usual bo!!icks..
Nothing else matters.
A lot of people talking their usual bo!!icks..
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27 games?
So we are done here. Thought this was a genuine convo.
Have a good night mate.
If that’s the measure of success, we are truly fucked.
Would you be able to see if he had adjusted his tactics?
How do you know Real adjusted and weren’t just forced to play deeper because of City dominating the game?
You don’t. This isn’t even rational mate.
Other than a very occasional good game, I don’t think we’ve played consistently good ball since before chelsea pt 1.
You tell me- have we?
Really fucking strange comments.
IMO he’s got it the wrong way round. I thought we at least tried to play against Chelsea and totally dominated the ball and territory, especially second half.
Whereas today we were garbage. We started off ok but after 15 minutes our pressing was shit, they were playing through us easily, controlling the game with the ball and smothering us without it, until they were 4-0 up, Ange finally made changes, Liverpool made changes and the game got stupid open.
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Ange hasn’t countered the most obvious problems being exploited- keeping fullbacks wide, man marking in the box on set pieces, lack of aerial presence in oppo box.
Why then would any more subtle adjustments matter one bit?
exactly- they were able to adjust and eventually win.
He needs to close out the season with wins against Burnely and Sheffield then reflect seriously on what's required to deliver his football in the PL.
We have had so much time on the training pitch yet the football is getting worse, clearly there need to be changes in the coaching staff as well as the playing staff. We need to bring a set piece coach and an experienced PL assistant coach to help Davies, Mason and Jedinak because they clearly can't translate Ange's ideas effectively on their own.
We have had so much time on the training pitch yet the football is getting worse, clearly there need to be changes in the coaching staff as well as the playing staff. We need to bring a set piece coach and an experienced PL assistant coach to help Davies, Mason and Jedinak because they clearly can't translate Ange's ideas effectively on their own.
copy and paste it then.
I just to know/see if there's something tangible to the belief.
I refuse to believe your are naive enough to actually believe that?
you don't think a particular tactic is much easier to nullify then another tactic?
I don’t think it I know it.
Tactics are dependent entirely on personnel. You can be as genuis as you like with your master plan to counter act any tactics but if you don’t have the personnel or your players aren’t in form it won’t do shit.
Same thing goes for Ange’s system right now. It needs recruitment in several key positions to work as a squad.
I'd go for Tuchel, despite his Chelsea links. If you look at his and Ange's resume they are like chalk and cheese. Amorim is also another top option, although with him it's more in the unknown territory. Postecoglou has one way only, and that way was found out 10 games or so into the season. If he gets next season then the most likely scenario is that nothing changes and he gets sacked months into the season, wasting a pre-season which is so important for any new manager to get his ideas across.
Really good posts from you mate them last few pages, some very valid points you make and I'm defo with you that Ange needs to be given more time. I do want him to succeed and I do believe he's got it in him.
That said, I just think he - like any other HC we've had under ENIC/Levy - will eventually down tools after being let down/betrayed one too many times by his bosses AND the players.
As much I love him as a bloke and his footy philosophy, I just think that if elite managers like Jose & Conte couldn't turn things around at Spurs, then there's little chance the big Ozzy could.
To be honest, I don't even think a Pep or Klopp could come to us and change the culture. It's just too ingrained and as long as Levy is here, I have little hope it'll get any better.
Tuchel is a 1-2 year manager. That would be Jose all over again.
Rubbish. The guy needs to be given the summer and then up to Christmas.
Only way that is threatened is if Burnley and/or Sheff Utd put us to the sword. At that point hmmmmm....
For now people need to take a chill pill..
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