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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
HyNdZee said:
That's what I hate about the general media virtue signalling stance. On one hand they want all men to open up about all mental health, and equality. On the other hand the services are shit on a local level and literally nothing is sacred in the dressing room or on the terraces. Equality for people with mental issues in football doesn't exist because people with real mental issues can't even get to football training or pay to get there, never mind get to the Premier League and hire a psychiatrist.

Counselling and other forms of therapy and depression services barely work for 40% of people anyway, but especially low income people. Charities do their best sometimes but the services are very hit and miss, especially in rural areas of the UK, and more often than not make people worse or can't actually follow through on what they advertise.
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If you or anyone else are interested there’s a group called Andy’s Man Club which is in my area in Lincolnshire but they are across the country and have 180 locations
For men over 18 only

They meet up on Monday nights between 7-9 pm and you can just chat with other guys who might have problems!

A mate of mine has been going for a year now and it’s part of his life for the better!
He Had a bit of a drink problem which made him a bit aggressive and has sorted it!

Serious post as we don’t talk do we!
 
Maureen said:
Said it in another thread he will be 23 in a few weeks. His not a teenager. We don’t have the kind of money other clubs do to splunk £50M on a player who may come good and doesn’t really suit the system.
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To be be fair to him 50m has a good chunk of HG tax on it, not many pull up the kind of numbers he did in the championship at the age of 20 like he did.

Every season in his career he has gone up a level.

At 19 was in league 1 scoring goals for Lincoln.
At 20 was in championship scoring goals for Forest
At 21 first season in prem contributed massively to Forest staying up.
At 22 he's has produced good numbers for a top 6 side.

Definitely will get better with age, as he's already proved. I don't have any problem with this signing whatsoever.

He'll be a good player for us and Wales for years to come.
 
HyNdZee said:
That's what I hate about the general media virtue signalling stance. On one hand they want all men to open up about all mental health, and equality. On the other hand the services are shit on a local level and literally nothing is sacred in the dressing room or on the terraces. Equality for people with mental issues in football doesn't exist because people with real mental issues can't even get to football training or pay to get there, never mind get to the Premier League and hire a psychiatrist.

Counselling and other forms of therapy and depression services barely work for 40% of people anyway, but especially low income people. Charities do their best sometimes but the services are very hit and miss, especially in rural areas of the UK, and more often than not make people worse or can't actually follow through on what they advertise.
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I agree 100%. Unfortunately I have plenty of experience with most of what you have said, have been diagnosed with severe mental illness, been let down by multiple MH services teams multiple times. I waited 6 months to start therapy and got discharged after 3 sessions because I wasn't "responding to treatment". Went to another service and had to wait another 10 months for therapy, had a great therapist who unfortunately left the service halfway through did 10 out of 20 sessions with them, got switched over to another therapist and after 3 sessions with the new person apparently I'm not responding to treatment and got discharged from the service. Have had no support since for the last 17 months. It's a nightmare really.

As for the virtue signalling, and constant mental health this mental health that I'm not a fan, but you see videos online like Rich or the Wolves one the other day, and comments from people who after viewing these videos and seeing other people with MH problems feel more comfortable to seek/ask for help which is a big positive. But I dislike the fake illusion that gets sold if you go to the Dr to get help that's the hard part done, in reality it's never that easy getting better... The treatment can be brutal and like you mentioned make things worse for some people. With all the £££ in football I'm convinced their is a lot more the PL/clubs could do to help people, not sure how but maybe one day something will change...
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
He looks down. Like the bloke. Needs that dad of his to tell straight. He has something but wise up it can be refined it's not just personnel and doing the same thi g better.
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He addressed fks straight away, after saying he wouldn't tbf.

Don't like that it had to take media prodding to prompt him, tho.

You just fix that shit, immediately.

Anyway, like I said - he needs to get this summer window right with the players he OKs.

If he's adamant about not changing his view on incomings, reflecting on last half of season, then it's hopeless tbh.

Because they won't be good enough to bump up our technical quality level, sufficiently.

If he can't see his system needs that in the prem, then he will fail here and he should think about going back to scotland (or equivalent).
 
Prior to the Woolwich game the guys 'motivational' quotes to the fans was to tell us that there will be pain and heartache.

This game he's telling us we will fight and we're not rolling out the red carpet.

Now I know people will be saying what else could he say but the quotes prior to the Woolwich was completely unneeded as he's said the same thing before and now he says this??
the red carpet bit wasn't even needed ffs.

He doesn't seem to get it. personally I think he's arrogant (even the exchange with the reporter about social media was arrogant and condescending not to mention he's completely wrong).
 
kingdawson said:
Prior to the Woolwich game the guys 'motivational' quotes to the fans was to tell us that there will be pain and heartache.

This game he's telling us we will fight and we're not rolling out the red carpet.

Now I know people will be saying what else could he say but the quotes prior to the Woolwich was completely unneeded as he's said the same thing before and now he says this??
the red carpet bit wasn't even needed ffs.

He doesn't seem to get it. personally I think he's arrogant (even the exchange with the reporter about social media was arrogant and condescending not to mention he's completely wrong).
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He just needs to send out a weakened side.

If not one can only hope the plsyers do get it or I am out of here.

It would be the one thing to turn me off supporting this club if we do anything bit lose tomorrow.. No doubt at all.

Then if we were to lose to Sheff Utd and/or not get 4th I would want him gone.

Needs to fcuking get it.
 
kingdawson said:
Prior to the Woolwich game the guys 'motivational' quotes to the fans was to tell us that there will be pain and heartache.

This game he's telling us we will fight and we're not rolling out the red carpet.

Now I know people will be saying what else could he say but the quotes prior to the Woolwich was completely unneeded as he's said the same thing before and now he says this??
the red carpet bit wasn't even needed ffs.

He doesn't seem to get it. personally I think he's arrogant (even the exchange with the reporter about social media was arrogant and condescending not to mention he's completely wrong).
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Bottom line: Son will make it clear to newer players - and the team as a whole - what's up, I'm sure.

If Ange thinks his image is more important than this game... error.
 
I mean the manager has to give off the impression that he's going to send the team out to try to win the game given all the talk around Spurs fans wanting to lose - can't have his professionalism be questioned
 
What's he supposed to say: "we're gonna throw it?"
He'd/we'd get kicked out of the league and probably lose points if that was the acceptance club line!

My problem is that, whilst everyone is slating Spurs fans for wanting us to LOSE... what about all those Gooners who are perfectly happy to switch sides and cheer on their HATED RIVALS!???

I'd rather be wearing Sky Blue tomorrow than Gooner red ANY DAY!!

Talking of which, is anyone gonna WEAR summit Sky blue?

I'm seriously considering it!
 
Playing devil’s advocate.

If Woolwich won the league maybe, just maybe that’d be the catalyst for Levy to get his chequebook out and tell Ange to go ham.

LOL obviously that would never fucking happen. COYS 0-3 LOSS TO SHIT ON THOSE CUNTS’ PARADE
 
kingdawson said:
Prior to the Woolwich game the guys 'motivational' quotes to the fans was to tell us that there will be pain and heartache.

This game he's telling us we will fight and we're not rolling out the red carpet.

Now I know people will be saying what else could he say but the quotes prior to the Woolwich was completely unneeded as he's said the same thing before and now he says this??
the red carpet bit wasn't even needed ffs.

He doesn't seem to get it. personally I think he's arrogant (even the exchange with the reporter about social media was arrogant and condescending not to mention he's completely wrong).
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Thank you. Like they say, it's about the notes you don't play. Look at what he's said for both games and it's literally arse backwards. For the Woolwich game he went out of his way reduce the motivation of the fans and the team to beat them - oh it shouldn't be extra motivation to stifle your rivals... Now in a game where you could be gifting your rivals the title whilst 5th is pretty much cemented, he expects the fans to effectively discard their feelings and raise their motivation to cheer along a shit-show of a situation like this.

I know you can't please all of the people all of the time but his urge to always come across as strongly opinionated is jarring.
 
Micky Bubbles said:
I mean the manager has to give off the impression that he's going to send the team out to try to win the game given all the talk around Spurs fans wanting to lose - can't have his professionalism be questioned
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"I understand the rivalry but we have to be professional and go out there for the win" simple enough right? Would anyone have criticized him for that? I doubt it. Yet here we are, the fanbase in the middle of a melty because he has to be hyperbolic with every statement. Ffs he never keeps it simple, always has to get a laugh out of journalists who will go and banter our club in the media anyways.

Never though I'd miss Pochettino's boring, "we have to be cOmPeTitiVe" pressers.
 
Jarritos said:
Thank you. Like they say, it's about the notes you don't play. Look at what he's said for both games and it's literally arse backwards. For the Woolwich game he went out of his way reduce the motivation of the fans and the team to beat them - oh it shouldn't be extra motivation to stifle your rivals... Now in a game where you could be gifting your rivals the title whilst 5th is pretty much cemented, he expects the fans to effectively discard their feelings and raise their motivation to cheer along a shit-show of a situation like this.

I know you can't please all of the people all of the time but his urge to always come across as strongly opinionated is jarring.
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my God somebody gets it.

Literally watch both press conferences and see the stark difference. Its absolutely baffling/frightening people do not see it but I know where this will eventually end up anyway.

Watch the bit today where he talks to "charlie" or even the bit before where he sniggers at someone saying half the fanbase want us to lose. He is so detached with reality (and/or pure arrogant) that he actually thinks that 50% figure is high as opposed to Conservative.
 
1882 said:
What's he supposed to say: "we're gonna throw it?"
He'd/we'd get kicked out of the league and probably lose points if that was the acceptance club line!

My problem is that, whilst everyone is slating Spurs fans for wanting us to LOSE... what about all those Gooners who are perfectly happy to switch sides and cheer on their HATED RIVALS!???

I'd rather be wearing Sky Blue tomorrow than Gooner red ANY DAY!!

Talking of which, is anyone gonna WEAR summit Sky blue?

I'm seriously considering it!
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Looking for our 2008/2009 away kit. Plausible deniability :sarrthink:
 
TottenhamCOYS said:
I seen the video, and know the quotes going around online are misleading, I just think counselling comment towards whoever he is talking too is poor taste.
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No, come on, that's bollocks. ("IF that's your world, you'll need a counselling session")

In the context of what he's saying, it's absolutely spot on. Social media causes a great deal of mental health issues. Having a little laugh and a smile about it is a good, positive way of reinforcing the message.

Can we stop ruining healthy conversations. He's a good bloke and he's sending the right message. Fuck's sake.
 
Sir Archibald Crooks said:
Agree with a lot of that but you also have to factor in Burnleys improvement. They were stupidly gung ho early season thinking they could out football everyone and soon finding out the premier league isnt the championship. Lately they've drawn at Utd, Chelsea, West Ham .

But we're now at 2 clean sheets in 27 games and the below par performances of 2024 have become a habit not a blip. As someone said on here the other day what do we expect to change with 6 weeks of pre season and 2 or 3 new signings when things have got worse with all these free weeks and fortnights. Not impossible, we might appoint a great coach and those signings might be difference makers but its definately more hope than expectation imo.
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How many clean sheets have we had in total think it’s 6.
 
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