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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Funny thing is, I've clearly been swimming upstream for months about not liking him and wanting him gone.


And now everyone is pissed at him for saying the absolute fucking truth - I'm on his side.
Utterly fucking embarrassing support. I used to pride myself on being better than mickey mouse fans like West Ham, who never won anything so only ever took pride in us not winning something.


And here we are. 2024.
WHU of NL.


Fucking. Losers.
 
It was crystal clear he gave those players the pre-match talk of his life, the way they played out there.

And nothing like the one he gave before the scum game.

No idea what he's playing at, but you're right - enough talking.

Get on with it and show us what you mean, Ange.
We controlled the Woolwich game as well as we controlled the City game, but against City we didn't score an own goal in the first 15 mins!

How dare he call you a loser whilst you wished your team to lose!!! "We" need to take our medicine and have the balls to say he's right.

I wanted us to lose as well, by the way, I love the fact Woolwich's title chances have swung from +80% to now 10% or whatever it is. Why do fans have to be so precious and butt hurt? Sorry mate in every way you cut this us (including me) fans look like tits. But I can own this, does it change my feelings? No. If we had to play the game again at the weekend I'd still want us to lose. I'm okay saying this, it is what it is. Such is the consequence of fandom we consume our football, I also know every other fan in the world would also want this, probably the only exceptions are fans of clubs like PSG where a trophy is 100% guaranteed before you kick a ball.

The one thing however that absolutely has to be changed is to rid this attitude from within an elite sporting environment, well to have this attitude means by definition it doesn't constitute an elite sporting environment. We aren't one. If we want to win all the shiny things we covert it's only possible if we change this. I'm not so reactionary as to say they should be sacked, I'm not aware of who the individuals are and the context in which things were said, maybe it's as easy as there are lessons to be learned, but I do trust Ange's judgement on the next call on dealing with this.

I mean you no ill my friend just passionate about this issue which gets me spitting a few feathers. Personally, I find Ange's comments quite liberating, it's a huge box ticked in the mentality dept. I'm confident on this front it's what we need. There are loads of other boxes that still need ticking but this is a biggie.
 
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Funny thing is, I've clearly been swimming upstream for months about not liking him and wanting him gone.


And now everyone is pissed at him for saying the absolute fucking truth - I'm on his side.
Utterly fucking embarrassing support. I used to pride myself on being better than mickey mouse fans like West Ham, who never won anything so only ever took pride in us not winning something.


And here we are. 2024.
WHU of NL.


Fucking. Losers.
the fans were so desperate to win they clapped them off after his suicide attempt at chelsea...thats how desperate the fans wanted to win! thats how fucking desperate the fans have been. to now slander them for not wanting the scum to win the league is a fucking disgrace! call them idiots thats fine, they are fucking are idiots! should of wanted this fat cunt out after the chelsea game! but to try and twist it round and blame them is fucking disgraceful.
 
Postecoglou has spent the last month creating and sustaining drama. Spurs were coming to the end of a season with a mix of good and bad. He still has the support of most fans, there's not a hint of him being fired. From all accounts he'll get some positive additions in the transfer window. Why is he chasing drama?
 
Funny thing is, I've clearly been swimming upstream for months about not liking him and wanting him gone.


And now everyone is pissed at him for saying the absolute fucking truth - I'm on his side.
Utterly fucking embarrassing support. I used to pride myself on being better than mickey mouse fans like West Ham, who never won anything so only ever took pride in us not winning something.


And here we are. 2024.
WHU of NL.


Fucking. Losers.
That’s what happens to fans when your team never wins anything and all you have left is spite and pettiness towards your hated rival.

Those cunts have actually won more than we have recently - conference league is a joke trophy but it’s less of a joke than the Audi fCup. And West Ham have a higher wage bill for this season than us. Levy and Enic continuing to strive for excellence.
 
Yeah you are spot on with your recent posts regarding this subject.

I'm baffled about the outcry around all this too. We as a fanbase are quite right to hold rivalry above winning one fucking football match which really wasn't guaranteeing us anything but would have caused us years of gloating from our biggest rival.

It's not like we've turned up in our droves this season not actively supporting the club on every occasion. It's just making a story out of something and trying to cause a drama. Like you quite rightly say, every other fan of their club would have acted the same but because it unfortunately was us it happened to involve it seems to be more of a drama.
If the roles had been reversed, and we were in Woolwich's position the whole country would have demanded a Gooner loss.
 
Funny thing is, I've clearly been swimming upstream for months about not liking him and wanting him gone.


And now everyone is pissed at him for saying the absolute fucking truth - I'm on his side.
Utterly fucking embarrassing support. I used to pride myself on being better than mickey mouse fans like West Ham, who never won anything so only ever took pride in us not winning something.


And here we are. 2024.
WHU of NL.


Fucking. Losers.
I see it more pragmatically I think, had there been something tangible on the line for us then I'm sure I'd have wanted us to win the same as I want us to win every game, but this very specific scenario there really wasn't.

The chance of 4th, which the manager has played down as an achievement every step of the season, and only if Villa don't get a result on the final day, wasn't it for me.

Sacrificing something meaningful to scupper them, cutting our nose off to spite out face, yeah that would've been small time loser mentality worthy of Spammers, this was just a nothing game and I'm well happy the result makes it less likely Woolwich win the league.

I find it rich for Ange to turn round and slam the supporters in this scenario when he's overseen a series of gutless displays leading up to it and received strong support throughout.
 
I find it rich for Ange to turn round and slam the supporters in this scenario when he's overseen a series of gutless displays leading up to it and received strong support throughout.

Exactly.

And fuck every cunt in here who keeps chirping ""Ange wants to win! You are just losers!" when the man himself has not been arsed about getting top 4 and has presided over a shit run of results and an absolutely pathetic set of results against our closest rivals.

In the cold light of day, this is all just deflection from an absolutely awful end to the season where a top 4 place was there for the taking, given the patchy form of Villa. It's not "changing the culture" or any bollocks like it, the culture is always good when these managers win a few games. As soon as the pressure comes, they look for anything to blame other than the way they set the team up.

Ange ain't the guy. I have done a 180 on him, I think we are just wasting time with him next season in the name of giving him a chance.
 
the fans were so desperate to win they clapped them off after his suicide attempt at chelsea...thats how desperate the fans wanted to win! thats how fucking desperate the fans have been. to now slander them for not wanting the scum to win the league is a fucking disgrace! call them idiots thats fine, they are fucking are idiots! should of wanted this fat cunt out after the chelsea game! but to try and twist it round and blame them is fucking disgraceful.

I haven't suddenly become a fan. The blokes in over his head and doesn't have long IMO.
But that doesn't change the fact he's right. Small club mentality from within and from outside the club. We'll always be a small club with that mentality. It's childish, playground nonsense by immature people.

I see it more pragmatically I think, had there been something tangible on the line for us then I'm sure I'd have wanted us to win the same as I want us to win every game, but this very specific scenario there really wasn't.

The chance of 4th, which the manager has played down as an achievement every step of the season, and only if Villa don't get a result on the final day, wasn't it for me.

Sacrificing something meaningful to scupper them, cutting our nose off to spite out face, yeah that would've been small time loser mentality worthy of Spammers, this was just a nothing game and I'm well happy the result makes it less likely Woolwich win the league.

I find it rich for Ange to turn round and slam the supporters in this scenario when he's overseen a series of gutless displays leading up to it and received strong support throughout.

Like it or not, champions league football is huge for clubs. Massive. And I can tell you this for a fact, as I have seen PL player contracts, every player and member of the coaching team get's handsomely rewarded for qualifying.
Financials aside, club profile, attractiveness to players and sponsors, TV exposure, growing the fan base.
Like it or not - it's much, much, much bigger than winning an FA cup these days.
And there's probably a 50/50 shot Villa lose this weekend. They're stumbling now playing on empty. Palace suddenly look half decent and are getting results. Beat Liverpool at Anfield, stuff Spammers etc. There is a very real chance that a win against City and Sheff Utd would have seen us qualify.

And even a possibility that Arse bottle it against Everton at the weekend and a win Vs City wouldn't have mattered anyway. Arse were nervous against United. They'll be nervous against Everton IMO
 
I haven't suddenly become a fan. The blokes in over his head and doesn't have long IMO.
But that doesn't change the fact he's right. Small club mentality from within and from outside the club. We'll always be a small club with that mentality. It's childish, playground nonsense by immature people.
scum fans were happy to lose their final if it meant us losing ours in 2019...and i bet if barca were in the final of the CL and the mighty madrid were in the final of the europa they would want the same! thats what makes football the game it is! you take that level of passion out of the game and youll be left with what they are trying to turn it into. box ticking woke nonsense. daniel sturridge giving analysis using words like likkle.
 
Exactly.

And fuck every cunt in here who keeps chirping ""Ange wants to win! You are just losers!" when the man himself has not been arsed about getting top 4 and has presided over a shit run of results and an absolutely pathetic set of results against our closest rivals.

In the cold light of day, this is all just deflection from an absolutely awful end to the season where a top 4 place was there for the taking, given the patchy form of Villa. It's not "changing the culture" or any bollocks like it, the culture is always good when these managers win a few games. As soon as the pressure comes, they look for anything to blame other than the way they set the team up.

Ange ain't the guy. I have done a 180 on him, I think we are just wasting time with him next season in the name of giving him a chance.
I think the season on the whole ha been acceptable, good even, on paper.

The fixture list that put this recent run together, and where it has fallen, has been unkind. Generally, if those results had been scattered around earlier in the season they wouldn't have felt quite as demoralising.

The failure to get 4th isn't down to the last 6 games, it's down to losing at home to Villa, taking 1 whole point from West Ham and Wolves, getting pumped by Fulham.

The big issue for me is not 5th, I'd have been happy enough with that at the start, I'm happy enough with it now. The problem is trajectory, that doesn't look good for us right now. We've spent all season mocking Chelsea, but come the final standings they could be ahead of us, even if we win Sunday and they're not, it's galling how close they have managed to get to us.

They're finishing strong too, that's a better position to be in, like in the play offs, you'd rather be the side finishing strongly and taking 6th than the side failing to get automatic promotion and finishing 3rd.
 
Judging over a certain period of games is pointless anyway. Too many mitigating circumstances.

First 10? Amazing. 26/30 points possible. The best ever start to a Premier League campaign by a new manager and by Spurs. But some will have you believe it's because he was new, an unknown quantity and no one knew what to expect. Despite the league apparently consisting of the best coaches in world football and all the technology at hand to tell them what we do.

Next 5? Not so good. 1 draw and 4 losses. But again, injury ravaged. Emerson and Davies at centre back.

The following 16 after that? Pretty good. 10 wins, 3 draws and 3 losses (1 away at Brighton when we were missing Romero, van de Ven, Maddison, Bissouma and Bentancur and has to play Davies/Royal at CB). Highlight being a destruction of Villa away from home. We mustered up just over 2 PPG during this period. About 78 points over the course of a season.

Then the last 6? Well, we all know the results. But then we were playing the two best teams in the country (Woolwich and City) and two teams in which we never win away from home (Liverpool and Chelsea).

Ultimately, he'll be judged on a 38 game season. Not 5 games here and there picked and chosen throughout a campaign. And he's on course for getting 66 points, qualifying for Europe all whilst joining the club in the midst of protests, losing his best player, an unsuitable squad and dealing with an injury crisis I've never seen at the club before and probably never will.

Next season though is the true judgement. Because now he's seen it and breathed it. He has experience to go off and build on. He knows who's capable and who isn't.
How dare you come in here with a well rounded argument backed up by some research! 😋

And lol at disagrees from the usual suspects! 😂
 
the clubs fragile in and out...ill make the guy who ducks headers and dodges duals captain! this guy is some sort of cunt. must be on a wind up.

Son is one of the longest serving players at the club, probably based on interviews the most liked and respected member in the group, he's one of our most famous players, and also one of our best players.

most managers would've made him captain last summer after kane went and lloris was out
 
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