Their games aren't nearly as chaotic as ours.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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I can tell the club without being paid millions
Depth and mentality. Season starts everyone is usually fit games at this point are usually free hits so all looks good.
Winter starts and the fixtures start to pile up, and due to baldys tightness we have no depth in the squad (seriously how long have we been saying this). Form dives.
Picks back up again after Christmas when injuries come back and the fixtures list dies down.
Crunch games start such as big cup games and games against direct rivals and teams fighting for there lives. Team can't hack it buckle
End of season nothing to play for now as out of all cups and everyone basically knows where they are finishing players suddenly find form.
To fix we need proper depth and get rid of the players who have proven they can't take the pressure. It's if levy will allow the spend required for it
It’s a pretty persuasive case.
We didn’t have depth under Poch and eventually that cost him.
My one comment because I don't have the energy.
Ndombele and Lo Celso came at considerable cost but it's Levy's fault about their mentality and subsequent injuries? That seems entirely rational.
Oh and had Phillips turned out to be a top buy for City, that's ambition on their part but not on ours? He was sh!t but we conveniently forget. Mason Mount???
And Pepe for 75 million for Woolwich was just an experiment to prove they can spend the money? Okay right.
Some times freaky things happen. We are a freak of a club.
A portion of our failure to win trophies can be apportioned to the owners but we get to semi-finals and finals, and fall short. Lesser teams prevail. Go figure.
Postecoglou or whoever the manager need to add the value they are paid to bring. They also need backing. Nothing so far to suggest that won't happen but if we again fall short to the juggernaut of City or an Woolwich team who bought a Rolls Royce player, that's probably a bigger reason than a lack of investment... well to me it is.
Perfectly entitled to your opinion, mate.Not trying to pick a fight, honest - but in my eyes at least, I see your response as completely irrational.
I laughed once having cut my head when a plank off wood fell on me and I got covered in blood and had to be rushed to hospital to get the top of my head stitched, didn't mean i enjoyed it
I heard it was chirpy he got the hump with.
Chirpy walked past ange at full time and didn’t respond when ange asked him what he was smiling at
Chirpy walked past ange at full time and didn’t respond when ange asked him what he was smiling at
I think the situation was quite unique though.
How often has a team needed to win to achieve something, but had to play a team that was in competition with a rival?
Weirdly nobody seems to be talking about United getting beat by Woolwich at the weekend. Their fans, from what I gathered were pissed off at the lack of effort from their team and wanted the win. They would have helped their rivals win the league if they won, but where was the fuss over that game?
Probably got more to do with backroom medical staff. Part of Newcastles problems this season have been players not having surgery that was recommended and then causing more damage.
We've had that sort of circus for years.
And as such, the manager is also entitled to respond to it
Not really. Talent is wonderful, but ask anyone successful in any career, Football or otherwise, they'll tell you that mentality is key.
Case in point, NDombele is actually an extremely talented Footballer, with a couch potato mentality.
Utd were successful for decades under Ferguson, because he instilled that culture into the club. If you didn't have it, he shipped you out. You only need to look at what he squeezed out of his players in his final season, a team that had talent in it, but had players like Smalling, Cleverly, Jones and Anderson as mainstays. He augmented that with top talents that had that mentality throughout their careers, in the form of Rooney, Van Persie and Ferdinand.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that we need to go out and get mentality monsters who couldn't trap a bag of cement, what I'm saying is that the mentality breeds the culture, and it's evident that our mentality errs more towards weak than it does strong.
If we are to give ourselves any sort of chance at challenging consistently, he absolutely MUST change that culture. We've already seen what talent with a weak mentality gets us.
By all means, get more talented players, but don't waste the effort on overblown ego's and mentality midgets, otherwise you're just wasting time and money.
Don't you celebrate every win?
It will be the end of Ange if we miss Europa because of Sheffield.
wont lose. anything less that a 3 goal win wont be good enough.
We don't, and we're in 5th on merit.
Our record for the season is 37 played, 20 won, 8 drawn, 9 lost. Last I checked, only 3 teams get relegated, which accounts for 6 of the 20.
8 of the losses came in 2 bad spells. The first where we effectively lost 2 thirds of the squad, not just the starting 11. The second with a bad run of form. Even then, there are games like West Ham and Villa where we got absolutely skanked.
For a first season, with a 180 degree change in playing style, virtually a brand new team, with many youngsters in their first Prem season...
A disappointing end no doubt, but the league doesn't lie, you get where you get on merit.
No, sure. Of course, you can’t be a dosser.
But mentality isn’t enough at the very summit. Madrid aren’t who they are because they want it more. They have the best, most technically gifted collection of players possible. And then they add mentality on top.
I’m not under estimating effort and seriousness of intent. And every team needs work horses. But for our front line, we need gifted, skilful players that see space, can beat their defender and can cross and shoot instinctively.
Harry is one of the most gifted finishers on the planet. That goal against Palace in his last season. One touch, second touch bottom left.
That’s ability, not mentality.
If everyone was more like shady , the world would be a far better placeTrust you to spectacularly miss the point, you utter dumbo
You're having a mare this morning, log off for a few days and focus on being a better human if your actual day job is to serve and protect.
It's both actually.