Class act.
Was actually good against both City and Sheffield United so seemed to end the season strong. Just a shame it took 3 and a half months after his return.
Hopefully pre season and rest does him good.
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Player James Maddison
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Class act.
Was actually good against both City and Sheffield United so seemed to end the season strong. Just a shame it took 3 and a half months after his return.
Hopefully pre season and rest does him good.
Eze has 3 caps for England.
Palmer has 3 caps for England.
Bowen has 8 caps for England.
Gordon has 2 caps for England.
It's well-known that Southgate has a preference toward experienced internationals in major tournaments.
I completely agree that Maddison's form hasn't been good enough. But the reality is that has nothing to do with it. Southgate simply has players he does and doesn't like.
When you're one of those players it doesn't matter what your form is like, what you might add, what he would normally do (experience, etc.) Conversely, we've seen him continually pick players in shit form for major tournaments based on things like experience, loyalty, and his own preference. Southgate isn't a statistically-minded coach, nor a great tactician, or good man manager.
How many minutes will someone like Bowen actually get? I know we're talking about different positions, but why on earth would you give him a place over someone like Maddison who is actually capable of producing some magic or at least causing real problems.
Yeah, form... Except that isn't the real reason.
He was out injured for 74 days!!!
There are few (I can't think of any, perhaps Kane???) examples of players being out this long with ligament damage that just pick up where they left off before injury.
Maybe he wasn't fully recovered and came back a bit too soon???
Would take Mainoo any day of the week ,
As for Palmer a definite on form player at the right time ,add his penalty taking and a definite no brainer.
Crazy not cutting all players at same time though,Madders will know he fell short inside but still a kick in the guts .
He had enough time and games to show something come the run in. He was completely ineffective and lacked any cutting edge or guile and seemed more interested in moaning. His head was gone. Hopefully he can do for a full season what he did the first 10 games of this one.
So how many Spurs players in the England squad?
Again, it followed a serious injury, an injury that you can't do any cardio whilst in recovery, he missed almost 3 months!!! He's, therefore, miles behind his teammates on fitness (you can see players that miss pre-season never recover across a whole season, always off it slightly), there is probably a mental barrier that he might have also had to overcome (the fear of getting a repeat injury genuinely can play on the minds of some players, I speak from experience on this aspect too).
It's not his fault he was injured, he shouldn't have to look in the mirror, if he's not up to speed it's the reality of the injury. Again, I can't think of too many players who suffer ligament damage and then just trot out onto the pitch a few months later as if nothing happened. What he went through is completely normal.
Do you think Bentancur should be looking at himself in the mirror too? Or do you think it's possible that he too experienced something similar to most players recovering from ligament injuries?
He did exactly the same with Lingard & JWProwse in the friendlies before the last Euros.
Geezer's is an idiot....... Genuinely thinks Gary-ball is so delicately coached that it requires some deep antiquated indoctrination process.
I tried to tell folk that no matter how good the group and we lack real class and depth at centerback leftback Centerforward left wide forward and goalkeeper: the manifest lack of ability in the coach and his deputy is the unsurvivable issue. If we make thd semi final it will be despite Southgate not because him. I went down the league and honestly you go along way before you would swap him for a coach of one of them. I know zero about the new guy at the Chavs but I put Southgate below Nuno and Gary O'Neil....
100%..... The last euros the level was fairly poor (and we had home advantage whilst most others were plane hopping around Europe every few days); whereas this time around there's a bunch of teams with lots of quality to overcome.
Southgate's one card is the victim card. He plays it again and again. He obviously feels most secure playing it in respect of black players. But he plays it more generally.
I do also think that while Madders' form has been rubbish, he can still change a game. See that pass to Bellingham for the Belgium goal.
If only bentancur had been afforded the minutes week in week out that maddison got once returning. If he wasn't ready then for the team he should declare himself not ready. I think you are making an excuse for him and being too lenient suggesting he played how he played the whole time he came back purely due to an injury. He was 100% fit in that run in imo and he was anonymous. He had 4 months or so to improve his form and he didn't. If that really was because of the injury and he wasn't ready then he definitely does still need to look in the mirror at his selfishness that contributed to our disastrous run in form at the end of the season. We've all had injuries while playing sports and yes you ease yourself back in but 4 months down the line there should absolutely be an improvement in your game and there wasn't in maddison. I put it down to mentality more than the injury in the back end of the season.
no it's Anges fault.
He saw him absolutely struggling to make and sort of impact and persisted and persisted without making any positional/tactical change that could have benefitted him or the team.
He could have done a job on the left side for us (a position that would have also helped him with Southgate/Enhland) as well.
Yeah he's never like Maddison.
Took him to get near KDB-level numbers to get a sniff and then was barely used.
I do think Maddison offers something quite unique - it's only really Foden I would class as similar.
Apparently Southgate has gone with:
CF: Kane, Watkins, Toney
LW: Gordon, Eze
RW: Saka, Bowen
CAM: Foden, Palmer
I would have taken Grealish or Maddison over Toney.
Great. Now we can add Brentford to the ever expanding list of "rivals" that treat Spurs as their cup final.