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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024

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Think you're looking in the wrong column. A few more goals wouldn't hurt, obviously, but the goals conceded was absolutely unacceptable.
Disagree. The style of football played by Ange compared to his predecessors should be expected to concede more goals as well as scoring more goals. We conceded roughly the same number as the previous season (presumably due to having better defenders now). Our problem, given Ange's playing style, is not scoring enough goals.
 
A lot of penalties though, Polar opposite to us.

Doesn't change the fact his goals per minutes ratio is one of the best in the league.
In some cases, it's miles better than others around him.

He started the season poorly, had his ops and a few weeks out, then became our most important player for about 10 games. Then he seemed to have more problems for the rest of the season where he couldn't get 90 minutes if his life depended on it.
I'm not sure I want to rely on him to come good and be available consistently, but if he did, i think he'd do well.
He’s a back up at best. He can’t be our number 1 striker for many reasons.
 
Disagree. The style of football played by Ange compared to his predecessors should be expected to concede more goals as well as scoring more goals. We conceded roughly the same number as the previous season (presumably due to having better defenders now). Our problem, given Ange's playing style, is not scoring enough goals.
No one's going to win anything conceding 60+ goals a season. Yeah sure, his style will inherently make us concede more than the usual title challenging team but it can't be 60+.
Premier league winners, over a season, usually concede like 23-35 goals overall. There are clear defensive issues for us that need to be sorted out.
 
No one's going to win anything conceding 60+ goals a season. Yeah sure, his style will inherently make us concede more than the usual title challenging team but it can't be 60+.
Premier league winners, over a season, usually concede like 23-35 goals overall. There are clear defensive issues for us that need to be sorted out.
Well yes if you're talking about being 'Premier league winners', but I reside here in the real world, progressing one step at a time, where 'Premier league winners' is a very long way off, and for me it's very obvious that scoring more goals is far more akin to 'succeeding at Angeball' than conceding fewer.

Obviously in an ideal world we do both - but the post I was referring to was suggesting that the previous poster was 'looking at the wrong column', as if the number of goals we scored last season whilst playing Ange's type of football was sufficient - it wasn't, and given that style of football (which is what we are currently playing, whether you or anyone else likes it or not), scoring more goals is both more important and more achieveable than conceding fewer goals.
 
Why is the benchmark always United? Everyone knows they have been a very poorly ran football operation. Ndombele transfer free might be a record for us but it’s insignificant in PL fee terms. That was 5 years ago with the stadium “game changer” about time it was broken again.
They're not the benchmark, they're an example of how poorly thought out transfers can have a major impact on a clubs ability to progress.

NDombele is far from "insignificant" in PL fee terms, he's probably the prime example of just how a poorly thought out transfers can affect a club.

The attitude of some on here is pay the money. I'd agree with that for any player that is a needle mover, but then all we have are opinions on what players would actually move the needle.

Personally, I think we have made signings that have moved the needle. Vicario, Romero, VDV etc are all players that have improved us and will improve us further. We've paid some significant sums in there, but you seem to think that the only "statement of intent" worthy of note is breaking a transfer record?

It's not, and has never been, about how much we spend on a player, it's about getting the RIGHT player. Having a hefty pricetag doesn't make a player the right choice.
 
No one's going to win anything conceding 60+ goals a season. Yeah sure, his style will inherently make us concede more than the usual title challenging team but it can't be 60+.
Premier league winners, over a season, usually concede like 23-35 goals overall. There are clear defensive issues for us that need to be sorted out.

I don't think the issues can be sorted out at PL level. Playing that way will just see us exploited. A lot.
 
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