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Shadydan said:
More spending won't make much of a difference, winning is linked to wages and salaries not transfers because it means you can buy quality and keep your best players.

What we spend these days is up there with the highest spenders now anyway but to bridge the gap we need to pay higher.
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But if you align success to higher wages, you have to spend more on transfers too. Unless you are saying we’d be better if we paid our present players more?

And I can’t recall the last player that left us due to salary. Maybe Stephen Carr?

There may have been players in the past that didn’t come here due to salary, but I doubt that’s a major issue anymore.
 
AberdeenYid said:
But if you align success to higher wages, you have to spend more on transfers too. Unless you are saying we’d be better if we paid our present players more?

And I can’t recall the last player that left us due to salary. Maybe Stephen Carr?

There may have been players in the past that didn’t come here due to salary, but I doubt that’s a major issue anymore.
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Not sure, transfers themselves have been often quite low. Haaland at £50m, Williams release at £45m etc. release clauses and contracts run down to 1 year often mitigate high transfers.

Wages though for a lot of top players around £300k. Not saying we do that but there will come a time a truly game changing special player is willing to come and wages do become a factor.

The negative is that if the player turns out to be a flop it’s harder to move them. We have a poor record with big transfer/high wage players like Ndombele but that is us, other clubs like Real or City often nail it. So our scouting would need to be at a level we can take the risk.
 
Tomo said:
Not sure, transfers themselves have been often quite low. Haaland at £50m, Williams release at £45m etc. release clauses and contracts run down to 1 year often mitigate high transfers.

Wages though for a lot of top players around £300k. Not saying we do that but there will come a time a truly game changing special player is willing to come and wages do become a factor.

The negative is that if the player turns out to be a flop it’s harder to move them. We have a poor record with big transfer/high wage players like Ndombele but that is us, other clubs like Real or City often nail it. So our scouting would need to be at a level we can take the risk.
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Assuming of course that neither PSR/FFP becomes the force that it on paper is intended to be, and we should be well equipped to handle that. Or the football bubble bursts and things like salaries and transfer fees have to reset for the sport to survive.
 
skywalker68 said:
Presumably a 10% stake, will eventually lead to a total buyout.
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May Amanda deliver us from the shackles of ENIC

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Tomo said:
Not sure, transfers themselves have been often quite low. Haaland at £50m, Williams release at £45m etc. release clauses and contracts run down to 1 year often mitigate high transfers.

Wages though for a lot of top players around £300k. Not saying we do that but there will come a time a truly game changing special player is willing to come and wages do become a factor.

The negative is that if the player turns out to be a flop it’s harder to move them. We have a poor record with big transfer/high wage players like Ndombele but that is us, other clubs like Real or City often nail it. So our scouting would need to be at a level we can take the risk.
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But do we want players who are “willing to come” predicated on a high salary? Ange himself says we just want players who want to play for us. Does paying a player £250k a week make much of a difference from paying one £300k a week? Possibly would, but do we want such players?
 
AberdeenYid said:
But do we want players who are “willing to come” predicated on a high salary? Ange himself says we just want players who want to play for us. Does paying a player £250k a week make much of a difference from paying one £300k a week? Possibly would, but do we want such players?
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Yes if they're worth 300k a week. I.e. a final piece of a jigsaw that transitions us from challengers to contenders
 
Deuterz said:
Lots of players, the ones who actually win you stuff which we never do.
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Would you want the job of deciding who is definitely going to be successful enough to justify a transfer of tens of millions and a salary of almost £100m over a five year period? That would melt my brain.

The only way that you can make decisions like that is to know you’ve a squad full of similar players, so if anyone fails, the effect is less. We aren’t anywhere near that and it’ll be years before we can be.
 
AberdeenYid said:
Would you want the job of deciding who is definitely going to be successful enough to justify a transfer of tens of millions and a salary of almost £100m over a five year period? That would melt my brain.

The only way that you can make decisions like that is to know you’ve a squad full of similar players, so if anyone fails, the effect is less. We aren’t anywhere near that and it’ll be years before we can be.
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am I getting paid what they do to make those decisions?

if so yes please mate, I’ll start tomorrow!
 
These rumours of a potential buy out / partial sale / investment etc seem to surface during the business end of every transfer window I can remember.

The window then closes, our squad is left with holes, the latest scapegoat / manager is hacked off......



And the rumours mysteriously go away

:harrylol:
 
AberdeenYid said:
But if you align success to higher wages, you have to spend more on transfers too. Unless you are saying we’d be better if we paid our present players more?

And I can’t recall the last player that left us due to salary. Maybe Stephen Carr?

There may have been players in the past that didn’t come here due to salary, but I doubt that’s a major issue anymore.
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Not necessarily, we generally spend more than Liverpool nowadays but they can pay players like Salah £400k a week and Van Dijk £250k a week and yet they still manage to win, reason is they can attract and keep the best players.

That's the bridge we need go gap.
 
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