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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024

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90% of what he does in the highlights is running down the wing and delivering crosses, which is Werner's bread and butter.

Werner plays to instruction and tries to beat his man purely because he has pace,99% of the time you know where he's gonna go, once he's half a step in front of the defender then it's hard to stop him but he'll beat his man maybe 1/3 or 1/4 times but he's not really a constant threat.

Basically there's a difference in personality between the two players...Best way I describe it is Neto actually wants the ball and wants to take players on (this is the kind of profile we need). His profile fits because he's an off the cuff player and we need those sort of players to do something different.
 
As painful as it is, the way they’re going about things is as solid as you’re going to see in terms of building a team to compete and win things.

They realised they have an excellent manager in Arteta, they let him trim and mould the squad the way he wants, and they have consistently backed him with quality players in the 30/40/50/60 million price range every window. And to add to that, if they believe there’s a player out there to really make a difference, they’ve shown they are willing to go balls to the wall to bring in a 100 million player.

And here’s the thing, whisper is quietly for some around here, there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn’t be able to act like them. Absolutely zero.
We were in an almost identical position to them 5 years ago with Pochettino and our owners made and absolutely cock and balls of it, showing without absolutely any doubt that they have no ambition to really make us a top side to genuinely compete.


backed him with quality players in the 30/40/50/60 million price range every window

19/20
- Pepe 80m Euros - not quality but backed I guess
- Saliba - 30m Euros - one for the future - loaned out for years
- Tierney - 27m Euros - CHeap not quality
- Luis - 9m Euros - Joke
- Martinelli - 7m - quality but no where near the prices you are talking


Not one player fits the profile you mentioned in the first season

20/21

- Partey - 50m Euros - Good player but barely played for them due to fitness and is a weird character
- Gabriel - 26m Euros - Great player but what some on here would call 'cheap' doesnt fit into your price range

some other shite was bought by them that window - one player just about fits into your profile.


21/22

- White - 58m Euros - been a very good player for them and cost the a fair whack
- Odegaard - 35m Euros - great player, amazing value.
- Ramsdale - 28m Euros - meh
- Tomiyasu - 18m Euros - Backup, cheap
- Lokonga - 18m Euros - lol
- Tavarez - 8m Euros - bigger lol

22/23

- Gabriel Jesus - 52.20m Euros - Good player but not really been consistently fit or answered their need for an actual striker
- Oleksandr Zinchenko - 35.00m Euros - never been a starter but i guess falls into your profile
- Fábio Vieira - 35.00m Euros - Money fits but quality - nope
- Leandro Trossard 24.00m Euros - 'Cheap' and could not image you would be amazed by this signing in Anges 4th season
- Jakub Kiwior - 19.50m Euros - Youth player - Cheap - proving to be decent quality
- Jorginho - 11.30m Euros - hardly splashing the cash but decent cover for them when needed

Obviously last season you are right, but it took them 4 years to get there and in all the previous seasons they had spent over 40/50 million on one player a season

The rest were relatively cheap and unproven quality at the time.

in short - you're chatting shite.

Ange was backed last season more than Arteta was in his first and I'm hoping he will be backed more this than Arteta was in his second
 
Almost all transfers across the top leagues, and even some lower leagues, are heavily based off tangible data now. Not a fan saying a player passes the "eye test"
Cheers Matt. I'll continue to use my eyes and watch the games while you judge players based on a spreadsheet. Over reliance on stats is how we end up signing garbage like Brennan.
 
Frustrating.

But meh. If Ange wants him, you've got to back him. We're not exactly poor. He has the perfect profile for what we need, just has the injury problems.

I would just hope there's due diligence when it comes to payment structure and Netos gametime.
60 on Neto is the most batshit piece of business I've ever heard.

Whatever. Agnes has nobody to blame but himself when Neto does his hamstring in gameweek 2.
 
Solomon will be in the squad next season.

Kick and scream all you want, but he has played well before his injury and has by all accounts put in a very good shift during the tour.
He has 2 games before his injury lmao. He played crap in one and good in the other. He's been shit this pre season, our 4th best winger and takes up a HG spot. Absolutely no shock POK says we want rid.
 
As painful as it is, the way they’re going about things is as solid as you’re going to see in terms of building a team to compete and win things.

They realised they have an excellent manager in Arteta, they let him trim and mould the squad the way he wants, and they have consistently backed him with quality players in the 30/40/50/60 million price range every window. And to add to that, if they believe there’s a player out there to really make a difference, they’ve shown they are willing to go balls to the wall to bring in a 100 million player.

And here’s the thing, whisper is quietly for some around here, there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn’t be able to act like them. Absolutely zero.
We were in an almost identical position to them 5 years ago with Pochettino and our owners made and absolutely cock and balls of it, showing without absolutely any doubt that they have no ambition to really make us a top side to genuinely compete.
They need a striker, all they are doing is piling quality on top of quality whilst leaving a glaring gap.

It’s like a guy with loads of hair round the back and sides but thinning on top, rubbing regain into just the back and sides - you end up with combover
 
19/20
- Pepe 80m Euros - not quality but backed I guess
- Saliba - 30m Euros - one for the future - loaned out for years
- Tierney - 27m Euros - CHeap not quality
- Luis - 9m Euros - Joke
- Martinelli - 7m - quality but no where near the prices you are talking


Not one player fits the profile you mentioned in the first season

20/21

- Partey - 50m Euros - Good player but barely played for them due to fitness and is a weird character
- Gabriel - 26m Euros - Great player but what some on here would call 'cheap' doesnt fit into your price range

some other shite was bought by them that window - one player just about fits into your profile.


21/22

- White - 58m Euros - been a very good player for them and cost the a fair whack
- Odegaard - 35m Euros - great player, amazing value.
- Ramsdale - 28m Euros - meh
- Tomiyasu - 18m Euros - Backup, cheap
- Lokonga - 18m Euros - lol
- Tavarez - 8m Euros - bigger lol

22/23

- Gabriel Jesus - 52.20m Euros - Good player but not really been consistently fit or answered their need for an actual striker
- Oleksandr Zinchenko - 35.00m Euros - never been a starter but i guess falls into your profile
- Fábio Vieira - 35.00m Euros - Money fits but quality - nope
- Leandro Trossard 24.00m Euros - 'Cheap' and could not image you would be amazed by this signing in Anges 4th season
- Jakub Kiwior - 19.50m Euros - Youth player - Cheap - proving to be decent quality
- Jorginho - 11.30m Euros - hardly splashing the cash but decent cover for them when needed

Obviously last season you are right, but it took them 4 years to get there and in all the previous seasons they had spent over 40/50 million on one player a season

The rest were relatively cheap and unproven quality at the time.

in short - you're chatting shite.

Ange was backed last season more than Arteta was in his first and I'm hoping he will be backed more this than Arteta was in his second

That's the crux, we spent something like £240m for him in his first year and we were and still are being aggressive in getting those players out, much more active than before anyway. The obvious difference in comparison is that they had a head start over us with the Arteta project and are heading into year 6, whilst we are in year 2.

We haven't reached our Rice stage yet, remains to be seen if we do but above all else we need to increase the wage bill, that's the single most important factor if you want to close the gap on the teams above us.
 
Gonna throw a name out there to see the reaction - I’m not advocating signing him so don’t destroy me, but we could probably pick DCL up for circa £25m this summer

Thoughts?
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