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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024

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I don’t really care if we overpay for a player if it helps the team find some stability in the final third. I think he could hit the ground running, is durable with regards injuries, and has proven he can lead a press, which will help the whole team m, including our defence.
The durability part about Solanke is compelling after all the injury problems we’ve endured recently. Feeling better about the signing the more I think about it, but still underwhelmed overall. We’re supposed to be playing Ange-ball but the only wingers we’ve signed are Werner and Johnson? If Solanke is the only attacking signing we make it’s a depressing indictment of recent club xfer policy.
 
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What is this? FM?
 
Are we all members of the coaching team?

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What a silly post.

Yes because that definitely means that people are unable to think of viable alternatives on the market doesn't it...

When you have the time to use your brain you'll probably realise that the price of Solanke is a symptom of what's actually on the market.

I can't believe they let you out of the asylum already and you're already speaking nonsense, Good Lord - at least it's not xenophobic crap this time I suppose.
 
I bet we don’t sign Neto. There only one itk bullshitter on sc that says we are keen for him. All other reports have been vague as fuck.
Neto has never really seemed real prospect to me. We're not spending big money on a RW the summer after spending big money on a RW who scored or assisted 20% of our goals last season in a rotational role. We're getting a lot more Johnson this season, regardless of what the anti-stat crowd want.
 
If Solanke has a decent first half season then, given that January is generally a harder window, Bournemouth will ask for more (75m?) and if we sit tight this summer and get bad cup draws, it might be too late to save the season anyway.

(There’s always a chance that Bournemouth have a good cup — could be in FA Cup 5th Rd / League Cup S/F by window’s end — or league run or, alternatively, in a relegation fight and don’t want to sell).
If he can emulate close enough to what he did last season, which was to be at 12 goals by the end of December, then we'll at least know this lads career is legit taking off and we're not signing a player who can't consistently bang in a ton of goals season on season. If they charge that more, then so be it? Seems a necessary risk to me! Don't you think?
 
I know, but the original post I was commenting to was this:

The striker market isn't that bad, you have Solanke, Toney, Gyokeres all available. People here are just turning their noses up at all options that aren't from a foreign league.

In what world is the striker market not bad when those 3 are the best options out there?
The striker market is never good . Scoring goals is probably the hardest thing in football and no club wants to sell their goalscorers. Having a good goalscoring no.9 who connects play is hard to find.

The options out there would elevate us without a doubt.

Look at all the top 5 teams in Europe, most don't have a genuine no.9 who bags loads of goals, it's more their general work. Alexander Sorloth was the highest scoring striker in la liga with 23 non penalty goals(he flopped at palace) now going to Atletico Madrid.
 
The striker market is never good . Scoring goals is probably the hardest thing in football and no club wants to sell their goalscorers. Having a good goalscoring no.9 who connects play is hard to find.

The options out there would elevate us without a doubt.

Look at all the top 5 teams in Europe, most don't have a genuine no.9 who bags loads of goals, it's more their general work. Alexander Sorloth was the highest scoring striker in la liga with 23 non penalty goals(he flopped at palace) now going to Atletico Madrid.
Dovbyk was pichichi last season, not Sorloth.
 
Again, eh?

Again, eh?

Q1) "But if you stand still you go backwards right?"

A vague generic question but ok.

Q2)
"So our rivals who have done no business will go backwards if they don't buy to improve right?"

Who are these rivals is a pertinent question because I've been told we're going for the title this season so that leads me to believe our rivals are the top 3 unless you disagree with that?

Assuming you don't, I think the fact the top 3 finished 17, 23 & 25 points ahead of us means they won't be going backwards relative to us if they make no signings, given who we've signed and who we're being linked to.

Now when you factor in the fact that the top 2 have made signings, it seems that you're chatting rubbish for the sake of it with a nonsense hypothetical story about our rivals not making signings, unless of course you don't see the top 3 as our rivals?

Over to you.
Thank you. Wasn't so hard was it? Not sure where you got this "hypothetical story" idea from though, they were questions.

I'll start with your third paragraph. If the rivals ahead of us don't make signings and, as a result, we close the points gap on them, they're going backwards no? I'm told repeatedly here that you have to make signings or you stand still, and standing still is moving backwards. So using that logic, they'll have gone backwards in relative terms because they have made no signings.

Still with me?

As to your last paragraph, now we're getting the grey matter going. This is where you then look at the signings relative to what that club already has available. Calafiore. Very good signing, quality player. Does he improve them? Will he be the difference in their next title tilt? I'll answer the first question because he does improve them, from a squad perspective. Insofar as getting more points? Highly doubtful.

City? They've signed a 20 year old kid for their right wing. Weren't you one of those ridiculing our club for buying kids?

Liverpool? Flat lining at the moment.

Newcastle? Lloyd Kelly, Lewis Hall and 2 unknowns that I won't even attempt to spell.

Villa? Lots of signings, but improvements when they've also sold arguably their best player?

Now we get to the point of why I asked those 2 questions in the first place. There's this narrative that you will only become elite if you buy the most expensive players, but that is only true to a point, they have to be the right player. So the 2 questions I threw at you were meant to illustrate that bollox. Signings are only part of the whole, they don't dictate success, or why would we need coaches? Buying a big name is great as long as they are the right fit. You only need look at Utd's transfer activity to see the truth of that. Then you look at City's strategy and see what buying the right players gets you. They were able to do both because they cheated, but their strategy is about as sound as it gets.

I'll be honest here, I was expecting a bit more of an hysterical response from you, but I was pleasantly surprised at the response as it was challenging.

Look, I'm as concerned about our lack of signings to date as much as you are, I just choose to wait until the end of the window before making judgements. A lot can happen in 2 weeks, and it's not like we haven't been in this territory before.

So, to end, I'll now answer your question. I consider every team in the PL a rival. Every one of them is out there to take points off us. If we aspire towards winning the league, then we have to consider everyone a rival that MUST be beaten, which hearkens me back to the mentality change that AP is looking to instill, it's why he couldn't wrap his head around us wanting to lose to City. He gets it now, but I can fully understand where he was coming from at the time.
 
Yes because that definitely means that people are unable to think of viable alternatives on the market doesn't it...

When you have the time to use your brain you'll probably realise that the price of Solanke is a symptom of what's actually on the market.

I can't believe they let you out of the asylum already and you're already speaking nonsense, Good Lord - at least it's not xenophobic crap this time I suppose.

Come on, day after day all you do is troll your fellow Spurs fans.

It's not up to us to provide the club with a list of viable targets, is it?

All we can do is comment on who are linked with and end up signing or not as the case might be.
 
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