Hypothetical question.
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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024
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If he's not good enough to displace strikers of that level then what are we really doing here?
You've got it in the correct order already
Dominic Solanke
However, it is believed Bournemouth would be reluctant to sell the once-capped England forward so late in the window because of his standing in the squad. He has three years remaining on his Vitality Stadium contract. TEAMtalk understands that Tottenham could lodge bids for both Toney and...bournemouth-forum.vitalfootball.co.uk
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At Spurs ? I think there's a good chance that we'll win a trophy before Spurs do.
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Sensing a new football rivalry brewing.....
Spurs - Bournemouth. .
Genuine question, who else has paid for a transfer where they've paid the full release clause, I can only think of Ars when they signed Partey and gave them the full £45m to Atletico?
I know and apologise. Ultra miserable man's Crouchy more accurate?
DLC ain't worthy of lacing the great Peter's boots. He'd probably get a 9-month injury doing so anyway.
Looks and sounds a right mug too.
If Veliz can't eventually overtake Diaz and Armstrong then he's probably not very good
I mean he's 20 year old.
Also clubs will naturally favour their own players over loans , in particular young loans.
No, we may well have a centre forward incoming, but I think its clear Lankshear looked far better than Veliz in preseason, so it could be he who is taking Veliz place as 'young striker' for Spurs next season
Plus his predilection for wearing a dress. Hey! to be clear before anyone starts! if that's your thing I am NOT judging. I just like a bit more focus in a Centerforward.
We are shit at loaning out our young players so it wouldn’t be a surprise
I'm sorry but I have to disagree here. We won 8 of our first 10 games before Chelsea. We then went on a 3 game losing streak before drawing with City. After then losing to West Ham, which was an absolute travesty as we battered them, we then went on to win 3 on the spin, putting 4 past Newcastle, before holing out at Brighton.
In the next 14 matches we won 10, drew 2 and lost 2. Amongst them was the 4-0 battering of Villa and our 3-0 against Fulham.
After a draw to WH and a win against Forest, we then lost 4 on the bounce against those teams around us. After that, beat Burnley, lost to City (in a game we all wanted us to lose), then beat Sheffield Utd.
So whilst we may not have played as well as we did in those first 10 games, we were still dominating games, creating chances, scoring goals and winning more than we lost or drew, up until the final third of the season.
It's the final third of our season that you could say we were poor. 6 of our 12 losses came in that period. In the middle third, you could argue that we were unfortunate to lose 2 of them against Villa and West Ham, 2 days where our frontline were pretty abysmal, because we created enough good chance to win 4 games let alone those 2. Losing 4-2 to Brighton wasn't great, but it was an outlier. Let's also not forget that in that middle third, we had roughly 50% of our entire squad missing. This doesn't excuse our final third of the season, but demonstrates that 2/3 of our season went from excellent to fairly good, with 1/3 at the end being the drop off.
So to say that 2/3 of our season was poor is patently untrue.
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The question is if he'll be given to chance to prove that though. He didn't get that chance at Sevilla.
Also Veliz is 20. Even if he doesn't manage to displace them, we should stop writing off players so early, especially strikers. Strikers of the traditional mould (not this false 9 stuff) are developing only in their mid-20s like Toney, Solanke, Watkins, Gyokeres etc. Scarlett and Veliz may still turn out to be great. So, we should be patient with them.
Now whether he'll stick around for that development or we sell him off like Parrott, no one knows. What's clear though is that he needs game time badly and he may not get that at Southampton so it would be a stupid move again like the Sevilla loan was.
This is the issue.
No Prem club would seriously take a 20 year old striker on loan and develop them for another club, it's rare.
We're honestly best off sending him on loan to the Eredivisie or something. Get him lots of minutes and see how he deals with it.
So why do Southampton even want him?
I think we'd hold both till Jan, if a senior striker wasn't incoming. What with Richarlison injuries.
Alvarez is too small to be a no.9 type that we need IMO.
The thing about Jan and Toby is there was very little aggression because they were both clever enough to always be in the right place at the right time. Something King was equally special at. I think back to that King Vs Robben moment and think that was actually a rare moment for him as he was usually better positioned. Toby and Jan rarely made mistakes, got booked and I don't recall any red cards at all. For me, a good defender is one that doesn't need to sprint around all the time and kick the shit out of the opposition to assert dominance.
We finished 11th that season. In the 2nd half of the season, our longest winning run in the league was 1.It was good enough for King to win a trophy with woody beside him though....sadly eluded Toby and Jan.....
The semi final 2nd leg and the final were really, really out of place for a season in 07/08 to say the least!
no idea.
Maybe because they lost Che Adams and neither Arsmtrong or Diaz are focal point strikers wheras Veliz has a bit of presence about him.
I posted a while ago that I had a feeling this would be the approach. I do think that CP will consider it, for tax purposes if nothing else.