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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024

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How Dry should our Powder be?

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TheSpurEst said:
Alternatives to ST will be Son and Kulusevski too. So the players who had to carry ST position for majority of past season anyway, given that with first 15 + last 15 games Richie contributed massive 2 goals.

Don't even try to claim with straight face that Richie has been someone we can put any trust in, based on his performances so far across 2 seasons.

In that sense I agree with you, that club could go in for 2nd striker at some point too, but I am willing to bet you 100 quid that Solanke IN = selling Richie. And it is more about to do with Richie being a dissapointment than whoever we might bring in.
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Well Solanke's per 90 numbers are pretty much a copy of Richarlison's, so if that's your theory it seems a pretty pointless one.
 
Matt1882 said:
I'm still waiting to see how Spurs, who don't get penalties, will benefit from Toney, who mostly only scores penalties.

I don't give a shit about age, personality, bans etc. No bias there.
I just want False 9 False 9 to explain how a penalty scorer helps a team that rarely gets penalties.
5 in 21/23
6 in 22/23
2 in 23/24
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And we scored from 12 of those 13, so at most there's one extra goal there or 0.33 goals per season.
 
SeeSpotRun said:
Plenty of people on here have said that our forwards give the ball away too often, and that is part of why we leaked so many goals last season. They want upgrades in the front row that control possession better, and fwiw I agree.

The Toney advocates point to his physicality and hold-up ability, implying that is going to help reduce our turnovers.

But according to FBRef, Toney had 620 possessions last season, was tackled 10 times and made 198 incomplete passes. That's a 33.5% turnover rate.

Solanke had 1069 touches, was dispossessed 60 times and made 144 incomplete passes, a turnover rate of 19.1%.

Turnover rates for Spurs forwards last season were Johnson (25.4%), Richi (22.7%), Timo (21.5%), Kulu (21.4%), Son (17.4%) and Gil (17.3%).

Ok turnovers are affected by team style and quality of the players around you, but Toney's stats don't suggest that he would improve one of our key weaknesses, ie high front-third turnover rate.
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So Toney loses the ball more than Solanke and wins it back less than Solanke in ter

Last season Solanke scored more goals and had a higher xG so also got into more scoring positions (granted Toney played much less games due to suspension.).
 
CerealMaterial said:
They want Toney. They’ve seen his numbers and they don’t lie.
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Toney's numbers -

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Maureen said:
Think what is meant we should be getting a top top striker or finding the next Kane from all the scouting and data. Not someone who has been under our noses for years. Ok he scored a few last year but now everyone says he fits ‘Ange’s’ system with other aspects of his game. Did he not have these qualities last year or the year before. He is gonna be 27 plenty of years to have identified any sort of potential. He is being bought purely bcos he scored 19 goals last year. The rest of it people are just now making it up to justify the purchase. Let’s say he scored 5 goals last year would anyone have mentioned we must buy him bcos he presses, can dribble, etc? No!
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We had Kane before the last year.

We didn’t have Ange before the last year.

Those two things now create a need for a striker.
 
Sir Archibald Crooks said:
That its come to who is preferable out of Toney or Solanke. We signed Gary Lineker and Jurgen Klinsmann once upon a time.

This feels more like when Sugar gave up pretending to care and we started signing Chris Armstrong.

But if we're heading into the 2 bald men fighting over a comb discussion then Solanke but thats more on the basis he isnt a knob.
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Lineker, Gazza, Klinsmann, Sherringham, Ginola, Ferdinand, etc. All big names at the top of their game.
Bonafide household names, superstars etc.
And yet people seem to think ENIC have made us bigger/better.
SameOldSpurs said:
Maybe Toney wins a lot of penalties or is at least in part responsible for them?

Kane certainly did. His little antics in the box leaving us is the cause for our dramatic drop in pens - more so than officials being mean to us.
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We got more penalties because we used to attack at speed and have numerical advantages IMO. Now we slow things down to a crawl and the opposition barely need to make a tackle anymore.
SeeSpotRun said:
And we scored from 12 of those 13, so at most there's one extra goal there or 0.33 goals per season.
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So you too are advocating a player who hardly ever scores goals from open play?
I think we're working this out different too, but 12 penalties over 3 seasons is 0.105 goals per game (12/114)
And last season our penalties equated to 0.05 goals per game with the same logic.

So what are we buying? Something most of our other players can do fairly comfortably most of the time.
 
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